Manchester United

[Ser Gagi]

^^^

Ako je ova izjava istina, onda Skols previse sere. Ko da je bio tip igraca Felaini a ne sam Skols. Imas vise fudbalskog IQ od svih, zasto jesti ono sto se ne jede?

[Vladan]

Runi ih svakako bolje izvodi od Mate i Blinda, kako su to mlaki ubacaji, lopte lete po tri sata. Ali da, od Van Persija niko nije ostro centrirao. Kad je to radio Holandjanin samo je bilo potrebno da ta lopta pogodi igraca u glavu, rezala je vazduh, fantasticno ih je izvodio.

[Rossonero]

Katastrofa.

[Cylokin]

Ako, i trebali smo da izgubimo, samo neka mu igraju Rooney i Fellaini. Jbt Fellaini čvrsto drži startno mesto u sredini jednog Manchester United-a, strašno.

[powerslave]

To je to. Kao sto rece Noto... ekipa koja, trenutno, valja samo za kafansku tucu.

Uvijek sam na Runijevoj strani, ali brat se vuce po terenu kao prebijeni pas. Pa daj malo gasa majka mu stara... Uzas sta postade od momka koji je(kako to danas komicno zvuci) bio jedan of najbrzih igraca.

Neka, neka.. Samo neka gube jer ovo ne lici ni na sta. Napokon se nakanim da pogledam utakmicu i ako sam zatvorio lokal u 5:30 jutros i imao sam sta i da vidim.

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[Abel]

The full horror of Wayne Rooney's performance against Watford - in 13 ridiculously awful stats

12. 27 of the 33 successful passes he played either went sideways (12) or backwards (15).

13. Which meant he only successfully passed the ball FORWARDS on six occasions. In 90 minutes. That is once every quarter of an hour.

“Maybe he [Rooney] is not a striker, not a No. 9 anymore but for me he will never be a No. 6, playing 50 metres from the goal. You can tell me his pass is amazing but my pass is also amazing without pressure.

“To be there and put the ball in the net is the most difficult thing. For me he will be a 9, a 10, a nine-and-a-half but never a 6 or even an 8.”

[Ser Deni ®]

Runi je za divno cudo odigrao dobro. Mislim gledajuci njegove utakmice protiv Sitija, on je uvek tu kidao. Jedna utakmica ne cini prolece, tako ni kod njega, kojeg zelim da vidim sto pre van Mancestera, jer Miki, Mata mogu da pokidaju na toj poziciji, a onda se lepo otvori krilo za Rasforda, Marsijala ili pak Lingarda, Memfisa.

Last edited by Ser Deni ®; 18-09-16, 21:55.

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[61563]

Treenutno ima dosta problema na sredini al mislim da ce to Mou srediti,ima tu igraca samo treba izbalansirati...samo da ne bude back-to-back.al za 50miliona manje,ja i dalje mislim da su bekovi najveci problem pogotovo ofanzivno Od Valencije se pravi bek,al dosta je predvidiv krene napne izvuce korner i to je to ne proleze lopte.O majstoru Sou sam vec pricao do danas je bar zatvarao u odbrani danas dirktan krivac kod drugog gola,Ambrat centrira ko da nema nikog posle ostaje izgubljen sam izmedju igraca,a ofanzivno ga nema,i to mislim da je problem jer na bekovima izmena nema,a da ima vise centarsuteva na ovakovog Ibru bilo bi opasnije,ovako kad ti znas da treba da zatvoris samo sredinu da ne dodje to Ibre onda nastaje,mucenje

[l1m4r]

Jbt 5 strana o Runiju...

[BorisUnited99]

Čini mi se da je ljudima situacija sa Runijem već dozlogrdila, jer je ekstremno loš od početka 2015., a još od početka 2014/15 prilično ispod nivoa. I jeste naporno čitati samo o tome, ali skroz opravdano. Kapiten, 300 hiljada funti plata, svaku utakmicu igra i u najboljem slučaju odigra solidno, i to jednom mjesečno maks. Dodajte na to koliko malo ga kritikuje ta javnost u Engleskoj, o klubu da ne govorimo. (mislim na klupske legende, od onih koji su postali ambasadori kluba - mada za njih se može shvatiti, do onih koji su završili na televiziji kao analitičari).

Posljednja top (vrijedna njegove plate) ali top utakmica koju je odigrao je bila protiv Murinjovog Čelzija u avgustu 2013. Još je te sezone imao odličnih utakmica (uostalom uz De Heu svjetla tačka sezone), imao je i tada onu strašnu tradiciju da kad, kako god odigra, svejedno ubilježi gol ili asistenciju. Gotovo svaki meč. Ali posle te sezone, NIŠTA. Pojavi se ponekad sa potezom koji riješi meč (FA Kup finale, Hul u gostima) ali to je to. I to je zaista nedopustivo, nevezano za to što je 2x želio napustiti klub, i da nije bilo bi. Sa sve statusom legende, potencijalnoj vrh ekipi trebaju vrh igrači. Njemu hvala ali Ferguson je bio u pravu kad ga je stavio na transfer listu onda. Kao i za mnoge stvari što je bio u pravu uostalom.

[Vladan]

Erik je npr. i prije cetiri godine bio za to da se Runi pozdravi, a taj Runi od prije cetiri godine je za ovog danasnjeg izmislio fudbal. Taj Runi je iako ni na 50% nivoa Runija iz zenita, iako bez nekadasnje brzine imao potez, asistenciju, odbijali su se igraci od njega i dalje, imao prijem, dao bi dvocifren broj golova iako daleko od gola, imao radnu etiku i igrao brutalnu odbranu. A opet kazem ni pola Runija iz zenita nije bio. Takav je to igrac. Ovo sad je neka sijenka, ma nije ni sijenka, sijenka barem lici na starog, ovo je presmijesno sta on igra i radi. Mozda je sagorio, on je na najvecoj sceni 12 godina, ne zivi bas zivot pravog sportiste, ali je bas neozbiljno ovo sto igra i on nikako ne smije sa ovakvom igrom i formom da bude u prvom timu. Doci ce siurno do nekog iole prihvatljivog nivoa, ali svake godine se ta granica pomjera, prvo je bio mjesec, pa onda tri, pa do nove godine, ko zna koliko ce mu ove godine trebati, mozda pola sezone, a to je nedopustivo. Opet da ti sejdi na klupi covjek koji prima 300 000 funti nedeljno(na 220 000 je zbog toga sto nismo u LS) je isto neprihvatljivo, ovo mu svakako mora biti poslednja sezona i sem ako nekim cudom ne zapjeva labudju pjesmu imacemo velike probleme s njim.

Mislim da je ekipa na papiru sasvim dobra i da moze odlican balans da se nadje, isto tako mislim da se trebalo ici po iskusnijeg stopera, pa i po jos jednog vezistu jer Snajderlin je pitanje koliko moze da pruzi posle onakve prosle sezone, a nista bolje ne igra ni ove kad dobije priliku, sto je rijetko doduse. Ima tu i misica, i tehnike, i snage i brzina, svega pomalo, sto je sasvim ok na papiru. Ali papir ne igra.

[ExEric]

Iako mi nije drago, Erik na kraju ispao dobar vizionar.

Msm to se naslucivalo odavno, samo neki nisu to hteli da vide/prihvate .

[Ser Deni ®]

Wayne Rooney's slump is foremost among Manchester United's problems

The poor form of Wayne Rooney isn't Manchester United's only problem after three consecutive defeats, but it's the most pertinent one. He is the captain and a club legend and is only three goals away from becoming United's all-time leading scorer with 249 goals.

The 30-year-old has won every major trophy in his 12 years at the club and is popular and respected. Being "a good lad" goes a long way in professional football. Players like Rooney; he's a team man and a joker.

Managers also like him and not only because he's so versatile and prepared to play anywhere for the team. Others might stand their ground and insist on occupying their favoured role but Rooney will just get on with it. It's to his credit that he's been talented enough to play in different positions and that the team comes first, in front of any personal scoring ambitions.

But he's not playing well, something even his most ardent supporters will concede. Rather than fulminating with anger, they're saddened that a once great player is floundering. From being the standout under David Moyes three years ago, Rooney now doesn't look worthy of his place in the team.

There are still moments, such as the one that set up a last-minute winner at Hull last month or a game- changing FA Cup final performance vs. Crystal Palace in May, but it's nowhere near enough.

Rooney continues to start in his usual position behind the leading striker. It is a highly-coveted role: Marcus Rashford, Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Juan Mata and Ander Herrera would all love to play there. Paul Pogba was tried there against Feyenoord, though he didnt impress.

Yet more than one United fan hoped he'd get sent off towards the end of Sunday's game at Watford when he became frustrated at referee Michael Oliver and was booked for a foul on Roberto Pereyra. It could have done him and Jose Mourinho a favour.

Three games out could have offered time for Rooney to refocus, while it also would have taken the decision to keep him in the team out of Mourinho's hands. An absence would also show whether he would be missed or whether there is a better replacement.

He has played worse than he did at Watford, when he started on the right of a midfield three. That, incidentally, seemed to contradict what Mourinho said when he took over, that Rooney was best used as a striker.

But fans are almost unanimous that he should be dropped. In a Monday poll among supporters on United We Stand -- many of whom went to Watford - 92 percent were in favour of that happening.

It's impossible to judge whether Rooney has simply hit a brick wall. In 1997, Eric Cantona called it a day while he was still at the top and just short of his 31st birthday -- the exact age Rooney is now -- and United coaches later said that the Frenchman felt he was on the way down. Meanwhile, Gary Neville realised his time had gone when he was exposed in a game at West Brom in 2011.

Or does Rooney go down the route of Ryan Giggs and change his position completely, play less but still have an influence in games?

There's zero suggestion that he's going to retire but, if Rooney's legs have gone, then it's understandable: He's played 718 games of senior professional football and has put in the hard miles. When Cristiano Ronaldo was making headlines in Manchester, Rooney was doing much of his running.

Through no fault of his own, Rooney has another problem. Initially, he was asked to form a partnership with Zlatan Ibrahimovic, a relationship which would take time even in a stable system, which United don't yet have, unlike Manchester City with Pep Guardiola.

Mourinho's initial idea was for players to get the ball to Ibrahimovic and Rooney, that there was nobody better than the two of them at working the small spaces, but the Swede is disappointed at the lack of service he's receiving. With Anthony Martial also out of form, United have issues up front as well as in the easily overrun midfield behind the forwards.

Luck can play a part in developing partnerships -- Sir Alex Ferguson only hit on the spark between Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke two months into the 1998-99 season -- but an otherwise composed Mourinho blaming referees after each defeat won't wash for long.

We're only seven games in and it's still very early days under the new manager, but it is possible to discern some traits of his United. The big (fame) names start, as do the big (physical) players.

United could have had a much tougher fixture list so far, having only played Man City of the top domestic sides. Coming up are games against champions Leicester City and struggling Stoke, before a six-day spell in which they visit Liverpool and Chelsea. Amid that are League Cup and Europa League games. Will Rooney continue to feature in some, if not all, of those?

Mourinho has been remarkably calm so far. He's been on a charm offensive and a winning start afforded him a honeymoon period. He knew he had to change his image after Real Madrid and his second stint at Chelsea, but on Sunday against a Watford team who'd not beaten United for almost 30 years, he presided over a third straight defeat. The last time that happened to Mourinho was in 2002.

For a man known as a winner, who is as close to a guarantee as there is for organising victories and who United executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward described as "quite simply the best manager in the game today," Mourinho has now lost 14 of his last 32 games in all competitions.

Before that, he'd lost a mere 14 of his previous 105. It's not only Rooney who needs to find his touch again.

http://www.espnfc.com/club/mancheste...nited-problems

[l1m4r]

Jedino kod koga je bio na klupi jeste kod Fergija, i svaki put posle klupe on bi podivljao.

Evo treci trener u klubu nijedan nema kohones da ga stavi na klupu!? Cak su mu svi dali kapitensku traku (Mojes ugovorom). I mi sada pricamo Runi kriv!? Runi je u losoj formi?! Jeste, igra ocajno, ali sta treba sam da kaze!? Eeeej treneru izbaci me!? Ili ce trener to sam uraditi!?
Jos od sezone kada je dosao RVP, Runi je poceo manje vise da krizira, sto iz opravdanih sto iz neopravdanih razloga, ali opet sem Fergija niko nema kohones da ga izbaci iz kluba.

A iskreno ne verujem da je Runi toliki kancer ali isto tako ne verujem da je previse uticajan na svlacionicu. Vise je uticajan na trenere. Kako!? Ne znam.
Sto niko nije prokomentarisao Zlatanovu igru !? Posto je Sitiju mogao da utera bar 3 komada, a i u nedelju jos 3. Cak je i on imao neke prijeme koji su bili na nivou Runija, ali njega tolerisamo!? Zasto!? Tek je stigao!?

Dolazimo do toga da je Runi kriv za svaki poraz, svaki primljeni gol, svaki neuspeh kluba?! Ali opet ko njega stavlja u ekipu!? Ne ja, ne vi!? Vec treneri. Tako da pametnom dosta..

[miloolja]

Nije Runi uticajan nikako, na terenu pogotovu nije i od početka sam protiv toga što je dobio kapitensku traku, prosto čovek nije vođa.
I nešto se ne sećam da si tako mislio za Blinda.. nisi rekao nije on kriv, krivi su treneri koji ga drže u timu, čini mi se da si baš bio na Vladanovoj strani u onim kritikama..ili mi se čini? No opet dolazimo do ličnih (ne)simpatija prema nekim igračima... a Zlatanu prosto nije bio dan, i opet je imao bolje poteze od kapitena.