KK Crvena Zvezda MTS

[nebitan]

Ja vise nisam optimista sto se tice j&j tandema, a bogami i Lesorta.
Oni su pokazali minimallan napredak za ovih 40ak utakmica u masem dresu.. morali bi bas da eksplodiraju u nastavku sezone da bismo slwdece sezone mogli od njih da ocekujemo kvalitet neophodan za EL.

Da bi igrač napredovao, mora i trener da mu pomogne, treninzima, savetima...za to ima još vremena (iako sumnjam u takav ishod), ono što je osnovni problem vog tima jeste što je roster sastavljen po revolveraškom principu (brzo potezanje i pucanje), ko je selektirao tim sjebao je balans između spoljnje i unutarnje igre.

Srećom da je taj samo jednu sezonu navijao za Crvenu Zvezdu...



Za sve ostale, kojima nedostaje prelazni rok, pređite na pp i razmenjujte vaše želje i saznanja.

[kronostime]

Perverznjaku jedan

Eno ga Bart rastura u SK - sistem funkcionise, zar ne?

[kronostime]

Ganac, jel moze da se otkljuca tema do veceras?
Izgleda stvarno se nesto kuva

Mirise dimljena kolenica ovde kod firme - odo` ja u birtiju posle posla.

[dekkard]

Eno ga Bart rastura u SK - sistem funkcionise, zar ne?

Ma idi ako sakupe 20 pobeda od 82 utakmice biće premija, baš razbijaju

[Victor BG]

Da bi igrač napredovao, mora i trener da mu pomogne, treninzima, savetima...za to ima još vremena (iako sumnjam u takav ishod), ono što je osnovni problem vog tima jeste što je roster sastavljen po revolveraškom principu (brzo potezanje i pucanje), ko je selektirao tim sjebao je balans između spoljnje i unutarnje igre.



Srećom da je taj samo jednu sezonu navijao za Crvenu Zvezdu...



Za sve ostale, kojima nedostaje prelazni rok, pređite na pp i razmenjujte vaše želje i saznanja.

Danas sam bas gledao ljetne pripreme Olajuwona: trenirao low post igru sa Howardom, LeBronom i Javal McGee. Sva tri igraca u prajmu, sa vrlo malo stvari koje ne znaju o ovoj igri i ipak slobodno vrijeme placaju i posvecuju individualnom radu gdje misle da mogu i za milimetar da ostvare napredak! Trener je tu samo da postavi odbranu, napad i dozira minute.

[blond]

Mi smo našu snagu pokazali u tri četvrtine protiv Cedevite, i imamo dovoljno resursa da budemo i ove sezone prvaci ABA lige. U EL je bilo očekivano da bude turbulentno, isto kao što ne smemo poleteti posle nekih dobrih partija ne treba se ni omalodušiti posle loših, sve je to deo rasta novog tima, trenera i stručnog štaba.
Moraju se istrpeti dečje bolesti, ali najvažnije je da nakon osvojene titule zadržimo okosnicu tima, a dovedemo nosioce koji su u prajmu, a ne na zalasku karijere, dostojne da budu deo rostera EL tima, da ne budemo klinika za lečenje propalih karijera. To, naravno, podrazumeva i veća ulaganja nego dosad, jer mi nismo na donjoj granici EL timova po budžetu nego smo tu granicu probili, ima dosta EC timova koji imaju veći budžet od našeg, a ako želimo da gradimo reputaciju stabilnog EL tima to je nedopustivo.

Ti si bogami pricao da nema potrebe da se stekamo pred gostovanje Himkiju, koji je, gle sedmi na tabeli. Ja sam tada pricao da je prirodno fokusirati se na Makabi, ali ne, bolji smo od Himkija i Cedevite i ima da se jure pobede. Sada se botuje nesto drugo, vidim.

Pa sta je u pitanju, kada si lupao, tada ili sada? Kada si vise bio bezobrazan? Cuj, pokazali snagu u duelu sa Cedevitom, eto to je ostalo iza cuvenog brojanja koliko pobeda smo iza TOP 8 i koliko je Radonjic imao pobeda u to vreme. Da ti pomognem, imao je ucinak od 11-8, sada imamo 7-12.

Samo bot ili neko ko je ekstremno bezobrazan moze u svakoj situaciji da nalazi opravdanje za svoje teze. Ranije je bilo kako Alimpije vodi odlicno tim i igra modernu kosarku, sada se prelazi na rezervne pozicije kako je ovo ipak los tim. E pa, i Radonjic je imao najmanji budzet, pa nisi ni trepnuo da napises da je 9. mesto neuspeh.

I nema sta mi da se nadamo icemu, nece Jankovic, Radicevic i Lessort da nauce da igraju odbranu preko noci niti ce da se pretvore u napadacke zveri u el. Mogu za sada da budu rezerve i to je to.

[nebitan]

Danas sam bas gledao ljetne pripreme Olajuwona: trenirao low post igru sa Howardom, LeBronom i Javal McGee. Sva tri igraca u prajmu, sa vrlo malo stvari koje ne znaju o ovoj igri i ipak slobodno vrijeme placaju i posvecuju individualnom radu gdje misle da mogu i za milimetar da ostvare napredak! Trener je tu samo da postavi odbranu, napad i dozira minute.

Ovde se moraju u hodu otklanjati greške kod naših vsokih iigrača, nemamo luksuz da čekamo kraj sezone i zato ja smanjenu Jovanovićevu ulogu vidim kao period otklanjanja nedostataka (nadam se) a na leto neka radi sa DR-om, Milojem...sve su to vredni momci, nisu za princip "da ojadim klub ovaj ugovor a posle baš me briga" ipak su momci rešili da se basketom bave profesionalno.

[VLADIMIR PERIC VALTER]

Aba liga prioritet, tako se i igraci ponasaju i nas strucni stab i uprava, ali bojim se da ni tu nismo tako dominantni nakon novih pojacanja u Podgorici, Partizanu a i Cedevita ce biti kompletna, ocekuje nas pakleni plej of bez prave centarske linije ukoliko ne realizuju ove najave do veceras kad je kraj roka, plej of se igra kad je evroliga jos u toku. Ali ja im verujem i na kraju sezone podvuci cu crtu.

[blond]

Ovde se moraju u hodu otklanjati greške kod naših vsokih iigrača, nemamo luksuz da čekamo kraj sezone i zato ja smanjenu Jovanovićevu ulogu vidim kao period otklanjanja nedostataka (nadam se) a na leto neka radi sa DR-om, Milojem...sve su to vredni momci, nisu za princip "da ojadim klub ovaj ugovor a posle baš me briga" ipak su momci rešili da se basketom bave profesionalno.

Slazem se. Mi sa ovakvim stanjem kod mladjih igraca bolje i da ne igramo evroligu. Napredak se mora videti.

@Evo ga opet ovaj, Partizan nema sansi za ulazak u 4, doveo dva krsa od stranaca. Morali su jer je mocni Miler presao u jos mocniji Gazijantep. Sad, da li nemaju para da ga zadrze ili su ga se resili, misterija je.

[dekkard]

Izraz poštovanja od strane Eurolige

Kalemegdan, cradle of Serbian basketball
Jan 18, 2018 by Vladimir Stankovic
Kalemegdan, cradle of Serbian basketball

The word is Turkish. As a matter of fact, it's two words: kale (city) and megdan (field). In reality, it is a historic monument, some walls from the third century B.C. when Belgrade, then a part of the Roman Empire, was called Singidunum. Below the walls, the Sava and Danube rivers converge in a beautiful scene visible from the Kalemegdan lookout, an unmissable spot for any tourist visiting the Serbian capital.

The history of Kalemegdan is long and rich, but we will talk about Serbian basketball here, which was born precisely inside the walls of this historic fortress.

The birthplace is known and so, too, is the year, 1945, but the introduction of basketball to Serbia can be found 20 years earlier, in 1923. At that time, the Kingdom of Serbia, Croatia and Slovenia (it wouldn't become the Kingdom of Yugoslavia officially until 1929) had a visitor named William Wieland, a missionary with the Red Cross. He was also a missionary for basketball. He was in Belgrade from September 27 to October 20 of that year, and during those days he taught basketball at King Petar I elementary school, did his job and left happy. In fact, in his memoirs, he pointed out that "Slavs of the south were the ones to show the bigger talent for basketball, followed by Estonians." Many years later, his prediction about Yugoslavs (those Slavs of the south) was, in fact, true.

In the 1930s, basketball began to exist in a more organized manner, with the first clubs and the first games, but we are still talking about beginnings with an uncertain future. Basketball was also played during World War II, but the true start was during the summer of 1945. The war was not over yet when in Belgrade, the Crvena Zvezda sports society, which included a basketball team, was founded on March 4. In the summer of 1945, the new club had in its team Borislav Stankovic, Nebojsa Popovic, Radomir Shaper and Aleksandar Nikolic. It is the only club in the world to have produced two members now in the Springfield Hall of Fame (Stankovic and Nikolic) and all four in the FIBA Hall of Fame in Geneva. The four of them have the highest Order of Merit from FIBA. However, in 1945 they were just basketball players, young students with ambition and a clear vision. I will talk about them, the "Four Saints of Serbian Basketball", in a future story, but this will be focused on Kalemegdan.

Crvena Zvezda managed to build its headquarters inside the walls of Kalemegdan, and still maintains its club offices there. With the voluntary work of those youngsters, the land was leveled and the stands were built, so that Kalemegdan was soon a sports center, too. Later the same year, on October 4 of 1945, the Partizan sports society was born, founded by the Yugoslav army. It's funny that the gym of Partizan was also in Kalemegdan, and that the two clubs are still neighbors, separated only by a fence. That was where and when a rivalry that translated to our days was born.

The 'Four Saints' were players, but also men with clear goals who started many trends. From the very start, they demonstrated their organizational abilities. What they knew for sure was that they didn't know much about technical stuff. They were lacking in reading and experience, so they had to learn with tours abroad and from coaches who landed in Belgrade to teach some fundamentals. One of the first ones was Veselin Temkov of Bulgaria, who arrived in 1946. Henri Hell from France was the Yugoslav national coach for the qualifying tournament for the World Championship of 1950 in Buenos Aires. In 1954, Robert Busnel, the French coach who "opened Ranko Zeravica's eyes," according to the great coach himself, also arrived in Belgrade.

The hunger for learning, together with natural talent and genetic predisposition (many tall males) made basketball develop fast in Belgrade. The city was the epicenter and Zvezda dominated the national championship between 1946 and 1955, but good basketball with good players was also being played in Ljubljana, Zadar, Zagreb, Karlovac and later in Split, Cacak, Sarajevo and Skopje. One of the secrets of Yugoslav basketball was balanced geographic development.

The games between Zvezda and Partizan always drew big crowds that filled the stands at Kalemegdan. The games were played in the summer, at night, in a very pleasant atmosphere. By the late 1940s and early 1950s, Kalemegdan had turned into a special place. Friendship among players and some musicians produced the idea of the "Night of the Stars" in Kalemegdan. Vojislav Simic, currently 93 and born in 1924, was the director of the Dinamo orchestra, formed by 15 men who revolutionized Belgrade with new music. They played jazz, something that was not always seen with keen eyes by the communist leaders, but those men were way ahead of their time. They played songs by Duke Ellington, Count Basie and Glenn Miller. The players had some homework during their tours of Western countries: they had to bring home records so that Simic and his men could play the songs live later.

Partizan and Crvena Zvezda also had women's teams that drew big crowds. It's believed that famous writer Ivo Andric, author of 'The Bridge over Drina' and winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1961, was a regular attendee at those women's games. Ljubica Otasevic, a player for both Zvezda and the national team, was considered a beauty and soon after started a career in the movies, working several times as a stand-in for Sofia Loren.

Little by little, with its basketball and its "Night of the Stars", which attracted the elites of the city, Kalemegdan became a chic place that everybody had to visit. That lasted until 1967, when the Yugoslav federation decided to change the calendar to play games from October to April. That was one of the most important decisions in Yugoslav basketball, because there was just one covered arena in the whole country, and it was in a city, Zrenjanin, that didn't have a team in the first division. The four Belgrade teams -- Zvezda, Partizan, OKK and Radnicki -- had to play in a hall at the Belgrade Fair, but by the end of 1968 the arena in New Belgrade was finalized and soon joined by the legendary Hala Pionir in 1973, the arena that today bears the name of Nikolic, one of the "Four Saints".

Kalemegdan not only still exists, but remains active for Zvezda and Partizan, especially in the summer. They are essentially an open museum that is part of the history of Serbian basketball. The offices of Crvena Zvezda are decorated with some pictures of the 1950s. Some of them you can see in this story as a testament to a different but unforgettable time, thanks to people with vision, talent, courage and faith.

When several thousand fans from abroad go to Belgrade next May to see the Final Four, I encourage them to visit Kalemegdan. It's easy to get there, at the end of Knez Mihailova street. It's a beautiful park, it's well cared for with many flowers and a beautiful view of the Sava river merging with the Danube. And, of course, with historical basketball courts. It's well worth it.

[nine33]

[Antona]

Omic na 5 i Davidovac na 4. Davidovac barem 15 minuta na 4. Mozda i nasa prva cetvorka, kao Simon prosle godine.. Super inteligentan momak koji sve zna o kosarci.. Skok, smisao za igru, kreacija, pomoc u odbrani, sut. Cudim se da ga Alimpije ne vidi na 4

[dekkard]

Omic na 5 i Davidovac na 4. Davidovac barem 15 minuta na 4. Mozda i nasa prva cetvorka, kao Simon prosle godine

Mekan je DD za četvorku, mnogo je bolje kad je povremeno na jedan i da raubuje taj missmatch. Naravno, najviše da bude na svojoj prirodnoj poziciji trojke.

[Antona]

Mekan je DD za četvorku, mnogo je bolje kad je povremeno na jedan i da raubuje taj missmatch. Naravno, najviše da bude na svojoj prirodnoj poziciji trojke.

Davidovac je nas Datome

[Manda77]

Alenova poslednja utakmica 21p 16 skokova.Jedino lose sto je imao 5 izgubljenih lopti.