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  • Kakav gol Mexesa. Ako mene pitate, mnogo bolji od Ibrahimovicevog. Iza sebe je imao 2 igraca, golman je bio tu oko gol linije, gol je postignut u ligi prvaka, nema dalje...

    Arsenal je rasturio Montpeljea, Giroud sjajna partija, a i Podolski je mogao da uvalja jos jedan pored onog odlicnog gola.

    City cao!
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    • Manchester City 1-1 Real Madrid: City out


      Spoiler
      Roberto Mancini started with a back three, then moved to a back four, but Manchester City couldn’t find a second goal.

      Mancini decided to start with a similar XI to the second half shape against Tottenham, when they looked good with a back three. Nine of the 11 players were the same, with the exception of Matija Nastasic coming in for the injured Gael Clichy, and Samir Nasri (ill for the Spurs game) starting in the centre alongside Yaya Toure, an extremely attack-minded midfield.

      Jose Mourinho named his expected side with one small exception – Luka Modric was at the head of the midfield triangle, rather than Mesut Ozil.

      The shots statistics were interesting in this match. After 17 minutes, Real Madrid had attempted 7 shots, with 5 on target – whereas City hadn’t had a single attempt.

      A couple of minutes later, City moved to a four at the back – and the final shots tally (admittedly, taking into account when Real were down to ten men), was 11-15 in favour of Real, and 7-10 on target. Therefore, after the tactical switch City “won” the shots count 11-8, and 7-5 on target. The formation change was a big factor in this match, and the goals arrived during both sides’ period of dominance in terms of shots.


      The starting line-ups

      Mancini back three

      But should Mancini have been playing a back three in the first place? In keeping with the ’spare man’ principle, broadly speaking the answer was no – Real only played with one upfront, and with Modric in for Ozil and playing deep in midfield, it wasn’t a wise move. Maybe the analysis should end there – but there was some logic to Mancini’s decision.

      After all, Real weren’t playing a static, boxy 4-5-1 system – they use a lopsided XI with Cristiano Ronaldo very high up on the left, and Angel Di Maria much deeper on the right. In that sense, the move made sense; Maicon and Pablo Zabaleta could battle with Ronaldo (and track Fabio Coentrao’s runs when he moved forward). Vincent Kompany and Nastasic could remain two-versus-one against Karim Benzema, while Aleksandar Kolarov occupied Di Maria. It was 3 v 3 in the middle, and the one missing piece of the jigsaw, Alvaro Arbeloa, wasn’t a threat on the ball and could be left free. On paper, this was a decent bet.

      Poor City start

      On the pitch, it failed to work. City’s passing was very slow, and they were opened up readily by Real Madrid’s counter-attacking strategy. Ronaldo was given far too much space down the left, constantly dribbling past Zabaleta with Maicon too high up to provide any assistance. The midfield was also a problem – Xabi Alonso stuck tightly to David Silva, while Sami Khedira moved higher up the pitch to press Samir Nasri.

      Yaya Toure was given a disciplined role and was unable to affect the game from deep, and City didn’t have rotation or variation of positioning to prompt quick passing moves through the centre, with Silva wandering into increasingly deep positions, trying to get away from Alonso, without reverse movement from the other two midfielders.

      There was also a problem in front of the defence – Toure and Nasri were often too square or high up the pitch, and were opened up with a simple forward pass for Modric to run onto, although at least one of City’s centre-backs could step forward.

      Real approach

      Real deserve credit for their very strong start, however. Ronaldo started the match on the right with Di Maria left, and although this arrangement only lasted a short period of time, City’s defensive players must have found it disconcerting considering how their three-man backline was (probably) intended to function.

      The interesting part of the Real side was down their right – Di Maria played a very deep role while Ronaldo stayed higher up (a little like Chelsea last night at Juventus), and because the Argentine tracked Kolarov’s runs, Arbeloa was free. Without the ball, he played extremely close to Pepe and often followed Aguero into deeper positions, more of a third centre-back than a right-back. His job on Aguero resulted in a first half booking, which would prove crucial when he again fouled his fellow Argentine in the second half, being dismissed.

      The use of Modric was an interesting move from Mourinho – he had a decent if unspectacular game. Real’s problem at the semi-final stage last season was that Ozil stayed too high up and wanted incisive balls into him on the counter, whereas Bayern Munich had Toni Kroos who played deeper and linked play. Away from home at quality sides, Modric is a good bet to sit in the ‘proper’ midfield zone and link play. Ozil would have been higher up, and allowed Toure to assert his dominance on the game.

      Benzema’s goal came because of simple poor defending from City – Kolarov didn’t put pressure on the cross on the left, Maicon let Benzema slip past him on the right. Whether this is related to the formation is questionable, but City constantly do the basics much worse when playing with a back three – the failed offside trap a little later was another good example.

      Back to four

      The switch to a back four, after around 20 minutes, resulted in a bizarrely immediate change in the game. Zabaleta trotted across to left-back, Maicon became the right-back, and Kolarov went to the left of midfield. Silva was now broadly the right-sided midfielder, although he remained in central positions.

      There was still a lack of incision, but City now held onto the ball higher up the pitch and put more pressure on the Real backline. A couple of half-chances came and went, but Real were very good at retaining a solid shape, while also quickly pressuring City players on the ball.

      Garcia on

      The start of the second half saw a further change from Mancini – Javi Garcia replaced Aleksandar Kolarov, and Nasri went to the left of midfield. This produced City’s most convincing shape of the match, and arguably their best spell of football (against eleven men, at least), although it was essentially Mancini’s tried and tested formation – two drifters on the flanks, and Toure able to move forward with the protection of a holding midfielder behind.

      Garcia’s role was understated but crucial – he played right-of-centre and stopped Real’s counter-attacks. In moving closer to Ronaldo when City had possession, this allowed Maicon to get forward on the overlap. Silva also found a large amount of space in the zone behind Ronaldo, and Alonso looked much more rattled than in the first half, becoming the second Real player to be shown a yellow card for a foul on his countryman. Overloads in Real’s left-back zone, especially when Aguero moved over to that side, looked promising.


      The line-ups at the start of the second half, with Garcia on and City back to their usual shape

      Later changes

      Mancini’s decision to introduce Carlos Tevez in place of Nasri, was less successful. His initial positioning was confusing – he seemed to start to the right, maybe to further overload that Real left-back zone, but Silva became more constrained. Later Tevez went central with Aguero moving left and nearly got on the end of a glorious Silva chipped pass, but the substitution seemed unnecessary when City had started the second half so brightly.

      Mourinho’s first change was odd – Modric off, Jose Callejon on. Callejon played on the left, with Benzema seemingly dropping off Ronaldo, who became the primary forward trying to use his pace in behind. Arbeloa’s red card meant Raphael Varane replaced Benzema and went to right-back, so it was now a simple 4-4-1 with Ronaldo upfront alone, offering a threat on the break now he was away from Garcia.

      City rallied, but Real held on – this match was a good case study for Dzeko being more effective as a substitute.

      Conclusion

      Mancini went for a back three, it didn’t work, and he corrected his system accordingly. The introduction of Garcia was an astute move that stopped Real’s counters and allowed Toure more freedom, but that system deserved more time.

      Mourinho used Modric as a passer and a ball-carrier from deep positions and it worked nicely, while Arbeloa’s narrowness – two rash tackles notwithstanding – was important in creating a spare man and preventing City from creating clear-cut chances.

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      • Grupa A je jedna od onih gdje bi moglo biti neizvjesno do posljednjeg kola. Do sada dosta efikasna i atraktivna grupa, sa pozitivinim iznenađenjem - Young Boysem koji se nakon 4 odigrana kola našao na drugoj poziciji koja vodi u naredni krug takmičenja.
        Večeras Švicarci imaju težak zadatak jer gostuju na Anfieldu gdje bi vjerujem bod za njih bio premija, no sa obzirom da je Liverpool već jednom slavio protiv njih, te ako uzmemo u obzir igru koju je prikazao preko vikenda protiv Wigana do njega će im biti jako teško doći. Liverpool ove sezone dosta sklon oscilacijama, zna odigrati fenomenalnu utakmicu, no zna i podbaciti skroz kao što je bio slučaj u utakmici sa Anzhiem. Rodgers u Evropa ligi igra sa igračima koji slabije ili nimalo ne dobivaju priliku u okviru Premiershipa, te im je ovo prilika za igru i dokazivanje. Nije poznato da li će Rodgers večeras izvesti nešto jači tim kako bi došao do pobjede koja bi mogla značiti prolazak u drugi krug. Ono što je jasno jeste da neće igrati najjači sastav te da će tu biti dosta izmjena. Sa druge strane Young Boys bi trebao igrati u svom najjačem sastavu sa formacijom 4-5-1 gdje bi Bobadilla bio najistureniji. Zanimljiv duel svakako sa obzirom da i jedni i drugi imaju šanse da se plasiraju u naredni krug takmičenja, YB će sigurno imati veći motiv sa obzirom da igraju na Anfieldu i tražiti će pozitivan rezultat iz ovog susreta.


        I drugi meč ove grupe dosta zanimljiv sa 2 jako dobre ekipe. Anzhi ima uloga favorita u ovom meču i pobjedom bi izborili plasman u naredni krug takmičenja. Udinese sa druge strane i dalje sa teoretskim šansama za prolazak dalje, no za to im je večeras potrebna pobjeda. Uloga autsajdera im itekako odgovara, a da znaju iznenaditi pokazali su već protiv Liverpoola na Anfieldu gdje su slavili nakon preokreta. Prva utakmica je završena podjelom bodova i rezultatom 1-1, a može se reći da je Anzhievo neiskustvo igranja u europskim takmičenjima presudilo u tom susretu. Bogati ruski klub je imao prednost do samog kraja, no da Udinese ostane neporažen pobrinuo se sjajni Di Natale. Na ruku Anzhiu ide loša forma Udinesea koji u posljednjih 5 mečeva nije ubilježio niti jednu pobjedu. Anzhi sa druge strane ima niz od 5 utakmica bez poraza, a posljednji meč u okviru domaćeg prvenstva su iznenađujuće odigrali 0-0 sa iako je trenutno 2. ekipa ruskog prvenstva bila apsolutni favorit. Traore se nakon pogodka protiv Liverpoola dodatno učvrstio u početnom sastavu te bi večeras zajedno sa Eto'om trebao činiti napad Anzhia koji će se Italijanima suprostaviti sa poznatom 4-4-2 formacijom. Udinese bi također trebao početi u već spomenutoj formaciji.




        Svakako najinteresantniji susret 5. kola grupne faze. Lazio i Tottenham na pragu prolaska u nokaut fazu. Italijani su u nešto povoljnijoj situaciji jer imaju 8 bodova, 2 više nego Tottenham. Prvi susret u Londonu je završen nepopularnim rezultatom 0-0. Tottenham kao što smo već naučili nastupa u kombinovanim sastavima, te mu ovo takmičenje nije prioritet. Lazio također često nastupa u kombinovanom sastavu, a i prošlu utakmicu kada su bili bolji od grčkog Panathinaikosa sa 3-0. Lazio trenutno u nešto boljoj formi jer u posljednjih 5 mečeva imaju 2 pobjede, 1 poraz i 2 remija od kojih je i onaj protiv Juventusa prošlo kolo. Tottenham pak u rezultatskoj krizi, u posljednjih 5 mečeva su ubilježili samo jednu pobjedu te 4 poraza, a za vikend su doživjeli pravu sramotu od Arsenala koji je bio bolji rezultatom 5-2. Za večeras Boas je najavio najjači sastav Tottenhama. Navalu Totetnhama bi trebali činiti Bale, Lennon, Dempsey, dok bi Adebayor trebao biti u napadu. Dobra prilika za podizanje samopouzdanja pred nastavak prvenstva, te da se već obezbijedi plasman u nokaut fazu. Lazio vjerovatno u svojoj 4-5-1 formaciji sa Kloseom u vrhu napada. Kako obje ekipe mogu igrati nešto rasterećenije sa obzirom da su blizu prolaska dalje, očekuje nas dobar napadački nogomet sa vjerujem i dosta golova za razliku od onog prvog koji je završen rezultatom 0-0.




        Još jedan zanimljiv meč nas očekuje večeras u sklopu grupe C. Fenerbahce koji je jako blizu prolasku dalje i koji je neporažen do sada ide na megdan Marseille kojem je u ovom susretu potrebna pobjeda, sa obzirom da Borussia Moenchengladbach igra kod kuće sa AEL-om te je za očekivati da će upisati novu pobjedu. Prvi susret u Turskoj je završen rezultatom 2-2 u jednoj sjajno utakmici, gdje se Marseille uspio vratiti nakon vodstva Fenera od 2-0. Od početka prvenstva iz snova, do velike rezultatske krize koja trenutno trese Marseille. U posljednjih 10 mečeva imaju svega 2 pobjede, a loša forma u ligi ih je dovela na 4. poziciju. Istina da zaostaju svega 2 boda za prvoplasiranim Lyonom, no njihove igre u posljednje vrijeme je ono što treba da ih brine. Fenerbahce sa druge strane nakon nešto slabijeg otvaranja sezone se konačno malo razbudio te su stigli na 4. mjesto sa 2 boda zaostatka za Galatasarayom. Igraju dobro u posljednje vrijeme i za razliku od Marseilla u posljednjih 10 mečeva imaju samo 2 poraza. Sigurno je da bi turski predstavnik bio zadovoljan bodom kojim bi potvrdio plasman u naredni krug uoči posljednjeg kola i meča protiv Borussie. Marseille će biti oslabljen ne igranjem Gignauca, Rema, Ayewa, dok bi Fener trebao biti kompletan.




        Prvoplasirana Steaua i jedno od pozitivnih iznenađenja Evropa lige dočekuje drugoplasirani Stuttgart kome je utakmica od velike važnosti za razliku od domaćina koji je usamljen na prvom mjestu sa čak 5 bodova više od Švaba. Stuttgart je nakon žrijeba bio apsolutni favorit za osvajanje prvog mjesta u ovoj grupi, no da će sve ekipe biti tvrd orah, a posebno rumunski klub pokazalo se već na samom početku. Stuttgart je u okviru prvog kola dočekao Rumune i bio vrlo blizu poraza, teku 85. minuti Niedermeier donosi bod popularnim Švabama. Nakon toga još jedan iznenađujući rezultat - poraz od Moldea. Ipak da ne bude sve tako crno Stuttgart se potrudio u prethodnom kolu, te savladao Kopenhagen u gostima rezultatom 2-0. Situacija je na kraju po njih ispala jako dobra, no žele li u naredni krug takmičenja večeras moraju ostati neporaženi, a dosta toga zavisit će i od druge utakmice između Moldea i Kopenhagena. Steaua sa druge strane bez poraza, sa pobjede i jednim remijem uvjerljivo juriša ka nokaut fazi. Rasterećeno će večeras moći igrati, a sa bodom mogu biti zadovoljni jer bi time ovjerili prolazak dalje. Očekuje se da će obje momčadi večeras igrati sa 4-5-1 formacijom, te sa najjačim sastavima.




        Club Brugge večeras hvata posljednji voz kada je u pitanju Evropa liga. U slučaju poraza oni su završili svoju evropsku avanturu, a ni remi im ne ide u prilog. Bordeauxu će sa druge strane biti dovoljan remi kako bi se pridružio Newcastleu u nokaut fazi. Prvi meč između ova 2 kluba igran prije nešto više od 2 mjeseca je završio ubjedljivom pobjedom francuske ekipe rezultatom 4-0. Brugge se ubrzo nakon toga konsolidovao, te ubilježio pobjedu nas Maritimom, a zatim i minimalan poraz te remi protiv Newcastlea. To ih je ostavilo u igri za drugi krug takmičenja. U domaćem takmičenju također ne briljiraju za sada, zauzimaju tek 5. poziciju sa 9 bodova manje od Anderlechta. Bordo se nalazi u boljoj formi od Belgijanaca, a obje ekipu su napravile dobru uvertiru za ovaj meč. Club Brugge gostujućom pobjedom od 2-6, a Bordeaux minimalno pobjedom nad Marseillom. Domaćini su ti koji su večeras pod pritiskom i koji moraju igrati napadački od samog početka što će ostavljati prostora za brzonoge nogometaše Bordeauxa.

        Last edited by Merlin; 22-11-12, 15:20.
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        • Bogami, danas puno jako kvalitetnih meceva koji vec sada mogu da odluce ko prolazi dalje a ko se oprasta od takmicenja. Mislim da je za veceras najrealnije da Anzi, Liverpul, M'gladbah i Njukasl ostvare pobede i obezbede sebi prolaz dalje.
          Originally posted by Brajkula
          Veruj meni, radi kako hoćeš

          Brajkula, 2014. N.E

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          • Lep gol Azerbejdzanaca. Ali ipak moje misljenje je da ovaj nas "golman" ili sta god je, treba da se preorijentise, dok je mlad. Nisi brate za golmana.
            Originally posted by Brajkula
            Veruj meni, radi kako hoćeš

            Brajkula, 2014. N.E

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            • Originally posted by Mladen View Post
              Lep gol Azerbejdzanaca. Ali ipak moje misljenje je da ovaj nas "golman" ili sta god je, treba da se preorijentise, dok je mlad. Nisi brate za golmana.
              To onaj Stojadinovicev sto je namestio derbi? Kontam da i sada pusta zbog kladionica, a i kontam da je zbog Stamenog delom.
              Na celom svetu samo Crvena zvezda

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              • ma mani me tih teorija zavera.Ne zna se ko je veci kikser od golmana.Ovaj Petrovic ili Zvezdin Kirovski
                Originally posted by Brajkula
                Veruj meni, radi kako hoćeš

                Brajkula, 2014. N.E

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                • Originally posted by Mladen View Post
                  ma mani me tih teorija zavera.Ne zna se ko je veci kikser od golmana.Ovaj Petrovic ili Zvezdin Kirovski
                  Znam brate, ironican sam, majku mu
                  Na celom svetu samo Crvena zvezda

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                  • Lako je tebi brate Ti se izduvao zbog jucerasnjeg kiksa, ja tek trebam ! ma lepo cu ugasiti TV i ceakati 19h da gledam neku normalnu utakmicu.
                    Originally posted by Brajkula
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                    Brajkula, 2014. N.E

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                    • Kako je samo lud ovaj Mitrovic

                      Prvo novinarima ocitao lekciju sad i Stamenkovicu

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                      • Mali Mitra pokazuje da mu zaista nije potrebno mnogo. Vidi se koliko mu sve ovo znači i da je pravi Grobar. Mada lično mi se ne svidjaju sve te provokacije koje već dugo traju na toj relaciji.
                        Originally posted by Brajkula
                        Veruj meni, radi kako hoćeš

                        Brajkula, 2014. N.E

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                        • Zbog cega crveni karton ?
                          Originally posted by Brajkula
                          Veruj meni, radi kako hoćeš

                          Brajkula, 2014. N.E

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                          • Ta debi.cina od Mitrovica se svadjala sa nas nekoliko na tribinama kada su gostovali Vosi. On sam krenuo da provocira. Treba neko da mu lupi dva samara da se nauci ponasanju.
                            Na celom svetu samo Crvena zvezda

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                            • Originally posted by NebojsaNS View Post
                              Ta debi.cina od Mitrovica se svadjala sa nas nekoliko na tribinama kada su gostovali Vosi. On sam krenuo da provocira. Treba neko da mu lupi dva samara da se nauci ponasanju.
                              Brate sta mozes da ocekujes kad mu je idol Baloteli?
                              Originally posted by Brajkula
                              Veruj meni, radi kako hoćeš

                              Brajkula, 2014. N.E

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                              • Originally posted by Mladen View Post
                                Brate sta mozes da ocekujes kad mu je idol Baloteli?
                                Baloteli to radi sa stilom, ovaj je jednostavno seljacina. Zvizde igracima Partizana (sto je i normalno jelte, i Zvezdi se zvizdi u NS) i on se okrene prema zapadu i kao nesto se pravi da ne cuje i krene svima da psuje mater. Jedno je biti ekscentrican drugo malouman.
                                Na celom svetu samo Crvena zvezda

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