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  • * Victory makes you happy, failure makes you stronger!
    * Smeš da izgubiš, ali ne smeš da se predaš!
    NOVAK ĐOKOVIĆ #TrueChampion

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    • Originally posted by jovan View Post
      Gi Forze o Novaku
      " ...Čak i kada promaši loptu-dve, odmah je jasno da to neće preći u negativnu spiralu..."
      Nista ni dodati ni oduzeti
      Ja cu samo naglasiti ovo gdje je Beker pomogao a Forze tako precizno izrazio.

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      @Olja

      Navela si brdo odlicnih statistika. Da dodam par stavri. Novak je igrao 38 finala mastersa. Protiv Rafe, Marija i Federera je 15:12 a protiv ostalih 11:0.

      Od 26 mastersa koje je osvoji samo 4 puta nije pobijedio jednog od Rafe, Marija i Federera. Cesto je pobijedio i dvojicu od njih. Ta cetiri turnira su Rim 2008, Kanada 2011. i 2012. i Shangai 2013. (Pobijedio je Delpa u finalu.)

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      • Originally posted by NI View Post

        @Olja

        Navela si brdo odlicnih statistika. Da dodam par stavri. Novak je igrao 38 finala mastersa. Protiv Rafe, Marija i Federera je 15:12 a protiv ostalih 11:0.

        Od 26 mastersa koje je osvoji samo 4 puta nije pobijedio jednog od Rafe, Marija i Federera. Cesto je pobijedio i dvojicu od njih. Ta cetiri turnira su Rim 2008, Kanada 2011. i 2012. i Shangai 2013. (Pobijedio je Delpa u finalu.)
        Voleo bi da napišeš ovu statistiku za ostalu trojicu. Baš bi mi bilo interesantno.

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        • Originally posted by Bimbo View Post
          Voleo bi da napišeš ovu statistiku za ostalu trojicu. Baš bi mi bilo interesantno.
          Mislio sam da bi ljudima bilo dosadno ali ako vec pitas:

          Mari

          11 titula 5 poraza u finalu
          7:5 protiv trojke
          4:0 protiv ostalih

          Mari je slican Novaku ali manji broj.

          Nadal

          27 titula 14 poraza u finalu
          13:11 protiv trojke
          14:3 protiv ostalih (izgubio je dva puta od Davidenka i jednom od Nalbandiana)

          I on je slican Novakovom skoru. Tri poraza su dosla od odlicnih igraca.

          Federer

          24 titule 18 poraza u finalu
          6:13 protiv ostale trojice
          18:5 protiv ostatka (Izgubio je od Agasija, Mantije, Nalbandiana, Vavrinke i Conge)

          Federer zaostaje u medjusobni susretima. Svih 5 poraza su dosli od odlicnih igraca.

          Suma sumarum, Novak je najkonsisteniji, zato ima najvise meceva sa ostalom trojicom. Postotno gledajuci, u finalima je manje vise ravan Mariju i Nadalu. Rafu dosta vadi sljaka. Na njoj ima sa trojkom ima 11:7 a na hardu 2:4. Federer zaostaje za ostalima iz trojke. Mari je pak iznenadjujuce dobar.
          Last edited by NI; 09-11-15, 15:53.

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          • Pozdrav, drugari samo sam dosla da bih podelila sa Vama poslednju rečenicu Tignorovog osvrta na Novakovu pobedu u Parizu. Odlična analiza i konacno odavanje priznanja za varijacije koje poseduje u svojoj igri i na kojima uporno radi, unapredjujuci je konstantno, a koje su svakom objektivnom posmatracu (da ne kazem Novakovom navijacu ) ocigledne!!
            Oprez, mozda vam zaigraju leptiricu u stomaku
            "Djokovic is less a machine than a subtle virtuoso of the baseline game. Catch his act, and appreciate it, while you can."

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            • "Have we reached Peak Nole?" Here is some statistical analysis that may answer this question.

              I have been playing with analyzing the performance of tennis players using chess-like (Elo) ratings, in which the points are awarded/subtracted based on the magnitude of an upset. Top players typically gain very little by beating inferior opponents but lose a lot of points after getting defeated. All players start from 2500 points when they play their first ATP match, and all matches are treated equally. So, without further ado, here is the chart of these performance ratings for the Big 4, starting from 2005.

              As you can see, on this performance scale Novak has currently reached a score of around 2850 - the highest ever for the data that I have available (since 2000). He got close to the same level in the spring of this year but then dropped a lot of points after losing in the FO. The next highest peaks (both around 2830) were: also reached by Djokovic in 2011, and by Federer - in early 2007. In comparison, Nadal very rarely managed to break through the 2800 level, and the last time it happened in 2013. Murray's highest was around 2780 but he has been quite consistent since 2008.

              So the answer to the above question is: yes, we have reached the peak Nole, and this peak is now. The question now is how much further he can go from here

              http://fyre.it/WmVtC7.4

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              • Paul Annacone i Nick Bollettieri u razgovoru za ESPN govore o tome kako pobediti Novaka:

                1. Throw off Djokovic's rhythm
                2. Get to the net as fast as you can
                3. Bring Djokovic to net by slicing the ball short
                4. Cramp his style
                5. Think positively


                Koga interesuje vise neka procita ovde http://espn.go.com/tennis/story/_/id...novak-djokovic.
                Imate tamo i kratak osvrt Petera Boda na Novakov trijumf u Parizu, ako nekoga to interesuje.

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                • Originally posted by skeptik View Post
                  Paul Annacone i Nick Bollettieri u razgovoru za ESPN govore o tome kako pobediti Novaka:

                  1. Throw off Djokovic's rhythm
                  2. Get to the net as fast as you can
                  3. Bring Djokovic to net by slicing the ball short
                  4. Cramp his style
                  5. Think positively


                  Koga interesuje vise neka procita ovde http://espn.go.com/tennis/story/_/id...novak-djokovic.
                  Imate tamo i kratak osvrt Petera Boda na Novakov trijumf u Parizu, ako nekoga to interesuje.
                  Zapravo nijedan nema plan. Tacka 3. je stvarno dobra ideja. Ko to moze da radi? Federer, povremeno Vavrinka, mozda Mari.

                  Svi koriste servis u tijelo. To ima ograniceni, cesto privremeni, iako pozitivni efekt.

                  Agresivni return? Dobro u teoriji. Novak ima odlican 2. servis. Mari je prekjucer probao i promasio brdo.

                  Konacno, ultra-agresivna igra nije dobar nacin da se pobijedi Novak. Agresivna igra sa dosta iznenadjenje i izvan svega sa dobrom defanzivom baziranom na slajzovima plus odlicno serviranje je jedini nacin. Tako ga dobija Federer, tako ga je dobio Varinka.
                  Last edited by NI; 10-11-15, 12:06.

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                  • Smejem se na sve, ali na ovo poslednje pogotovu.
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                    Pablo Sandoval: A guy can change anything.. his face, his home, his family, his girlfriend, his religion, his God.
                    But there's one thing he can't change... he can't change his passion.

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                    • Ona prica sa MTFa navijaca koji je bio na terenu na kojem je Novak dosao da trenira odma posle meca sa SImonom je nevjerovatna. Dok god je tako posvecen nema im spasa.
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                      • Apsolutno, ključ svega.

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                        Pablo Sandoval: A guy can change anything.. his face, his home, his family, his girlfriend, his religion, his God.
                        But there's one thing he can't change... he can't change his passion.

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                        • Originally posted by miloolja View Post
                          Apsolutno, ključ svega.

                          Znaci zakljucak nas Novakovaca/bez lazne skoromnosti/-"Jedan, jedini, neponovljivi Nole", apsolutno mu neverovatno ocrtava sustinu bica

                          Spoiler
                          U tom slucaju, ne pomazu nikakvi planovi ni taktike
                          Last edited by jovan; 10-11-15, 15:05.
                          * Telo je slabo, ali je duh krepak, zato ga treba svakodnevno održavati. *

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                          • https://youtu.be/wOFUWHv0pso

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                            • mogli su ubaciti i Pariz, ali svejedno lep video

                              It's not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you

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