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  • Marej ocekivano najbolji, a Conga na iznenadjujuce visokom drugom mestu.
    Del Potro solidan ali njega su povrede zakopale inace bi bio bolji ubedjen sam.
    Hjuit je nakupio protiv Federera "davnih vremena" pa je najvise zbog toga tako dobro plasiran.
    Dok je Vavac maksimalno iskoristio svoje sanse. Sve njegove pobede protiv trojke su bitne pobede (skoro sve) a pri dnu je ove tabele, znaci gubio je kao blesav ali je znao da ubode "pravu pobedu"
    Last edited by Sandugp; 20-10-15, 17:31.
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    • Evo poredjenja dve neuporedive sezone:
      http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2015/.../#.VidFmH4rLcs
      Mada naravno vidi se da Tignor "vuce" blago na Federerovu stranu jer ne zeli da spomene da Svajcarac te 2006 nije osvojio ni jednu titulu na sljaci.
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      • A plus kod Feda je sto je morao da igra masterse od pocetka, nije postojao bye i sto je finale ne samo mastersa, nego i nekih manjih turnira bio best of 5.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

        Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

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        • "Federer was 2-4 vs #2 (Nadal) in 2006.

          He won 11 titles that year. The opponents in those finals were ranked #23, on average.

          The average ranking of Djokovic opponents in the nine finals he won this year is 5.

          With WTF and one Masters 1000 left in 2006, Federer was 4-4 vs Top 5 and 10-4 vs Top 10 players.

          Djokovic is 11-3 vs Top 5 and 24 - 4 vs Top 10 now.

          Federer did finish the year strong, winning Madrid and sweeping WTF, but at this point 2015 looks much stronger than 2006. And not just that the field in 2006 was different - Federer did not have to play the top players as often. He played three players ranked within 60 to win USO (Djokovic played 6). Federer defeated one top 20 player to win AO (Davidenko, ranked #5), while Djokovic had to defeat three top 10 players. "
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          • Kao sto rekoh, back to back mastersi u kojima se igra od 1.kola, a u finalu best of 5 je druga prica u odnosu na kolo manje, best of 3 u finalu.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

            Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

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            • Sada sam proverio. Imao je bye na nekoliko mastersa u prvom kolu. IW, Majami (na ta dva je svakako igrao po 6 meceva ali u duzem vremenskom periodu jer traju po 10 dana a ne 7) i u Madridu.
              A sto se tice finala na tri seta jedino je u Kanadi igrao finale na dva dobijena, a od ovih "manjih" turnira jedino je u Bazelu igrao finale na tri dobijena.
              Sve u svemu nije bas bilo stoprocentno onako kako tvrdis ali vecinom jeste. A to je i razlog sto se nakupio meceva. A i igrao je vise turnira nego Novak ove godine.
              Neuporedive su te dve sezone, svaka je specificna na svoj nacin, ali kada bih morao da biram na Federerovoj strani je to sto je igrao vise meceva i sto ga niko sem Nadala nije dobijao (jeste jednom mladi Marej bas u Sinsiju)dok je na Novakovoj to sto je na svakoj podlozi uzimao turnire, sto nije imao kiks (do sada) ni na jednom mastersu kao Federer u Sinsinatiju, i sto je protiv najvecih rivala imao dominaciju. Federera je na primer dobio u tri od cetiri bitna meca (W, US, Rim a izgubio Sinsi) dok je jedan manje bitan izgubio (Dubai). Dok je Rodzer protiv svog najveceg rivala u svojoj najboljoj sezoni imao negativan h2h.
              Naravno Novak za sada ima jedan masters vise samim tim jedan veliki trofej vise, ali jos uvek nije igran zavrsni. Ako osvoji sesti masters onda se tu prica zavrsava, a ako osvoji i zavrsni ajoj majko.
              Kada bih bas morao da biram odabrao bih Novakovu. Ali za prava poredjenja moramo sacekati da se 2015 zavrsi pa da vidimo.
              Last edited by Sandugp; 21-10-15, 10:57.
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              • Onda je minus Djokovicu sto mu je glavni protvnik bio Federer koji ima 33 godine, dok je Fedu glavni protivnik bio Nadal od 20 godina koji je uveliko bio ubica na sljaci i koje je nesumnjivo najveci igrac u istoriji na toj podlozi.

                I jedna i druga sezona imaju svoje minuse i pluseve, ali ako Djokovic ne osvoji WTF, uzalud je ova prica.
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

                Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

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                • Malo ste uranili.

                  Novak ima jos da igra dva turnira. Tek poslije njih cemo znati koliko je dobra ova Novakova sezona. Ako Novak pobijedi oba, onda tesko da 2006. moze biti bolja od ove. Ako izgubi oba, onda tesko da 2006. nije bolja. Sto ako je nesto izmedju toga dvoga?

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                  • Originally posted by NI View Post
                    Malo ste uranili.

                    Novak ima jos da igra dva turnira. Tek poslije njih cemo znati koliko je dobra ova Novakova sezona. Ako Novak pobijedi oba, onda tesko da 2006. moze biti bolja od ove. Ako izgubi oba, onda tesko da 2006. nije bolja. Sto ako je nesto izmedju toga dvoga?
                    Ako osvoji zavrsni a ne osvoji Pariz onda je 2015 sigurno bolja od 2006. Jos ako na tom zavrsnom dobije Federera, bombona. A ako uzme Pariz a ne uzme Zavrsni onda je ova sezona opet za nijansu bolja jer jednostavno Novak ce imati vise velikih turnira u 2015 nego Federer u 2006.
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                    U crnim rupama možeš ludo da se zezaš. Da lebdiš iznad zemlje. Da slušaš rock ´n´ roll.Dozivaš kišu.
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                    • Originally posted by Sandugp View Post
                      Ako osvoji zavrsni a ne osvoji Pariz onda je 2015 sigurno bolja od 2006. Jos ako na tom zavrsnom dobije Federera, bombona. A ako uzme Pariz a ne uzme Zavrsni onda je ova sezona opet za nijansu bolja jer jednostavno Novak ce imati vise velikih turnira u 2015 nego Federer u 2006.
                      Ako osvoji Pariz, a ne osvoji WTF, onda je Fedova bolja jer je Fed imao vise pobeda i manje poraza.
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

                      Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

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                      • Originally posted by bojanaBG View Post
                        Ako osvoji Pariz, a ne osvoji WTF, onda je Fedova bolja jer je Fed imao vise pobeda i manje poraza.
                        A Novak imao 3 slema i 6 mastersa tj 9 velikih titula
                        A Rodzer 3 slema 4 mastersa i zavrsni masters tj 8 velikih titula.
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                        • WTF je bitniji od mastersa, tako da WTF bez problema pobija 2 mastersa vise.
                          Po meni, ako ne osvoji WTF, onda mora broj pobeda i ukupan broj titula da presudi, a to je na strani Feda.
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

                          Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

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                          • Originally posted by Sandugp View Post
                            Ako osvoji zavrsni a ne osvoji Pariz onda je 2015 sigurno bolja od 2006. Jos ako na tom zavrsnom dobije Federera, bombona. A ako uzme Pariz a ne uzme Zavrsni onda je ova sezona opet za nijansu bolja jer jednostavno Novak ce imati vise velikih turnira u 2015 nego Federer u 2006.
                            Vec sam napisao analizu i fale mi samo detalji.

                            Velika mana Federerove 2006. ja da je imao negativan skor protiv 20-godisnjeg Rafe. To nije Nadal iz 2008. ili 2010. ili 2013. Cak i na hardu ima samo 1:1. Veliki plus Federerove sezone je da je igrao 11 finala u 3 dobijena seta (dobio je 8) i da je imao vise meceva na Mastersima i generalno ima bolji postotak pobjeda i poraza. Chela u prvom kolu Rima je ozbiljan protivnik.

                            Novakova sezona za sada nema ozbiljnu manu za ovu konkurenciju. Da je dobio Vavrinku bio bi u konkurenciji sa Lejverom. Gubitak WTF-a bi bio velika mana. Novakove prednosti su da je dobija vece turnire od Federa i da je imao jacu konkurenciju.
                            Last edited by NI; 21-10-15, 12:07.

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                            • Videcemo sve kada se zavrsi London pa cemo nastaviti tada diskusiju na ovu temu. Sve do tada jeste preuranjeno.
                              I naravno ne bih se slozio da WTF bez problema moze da pobije 2 mastersa vise....
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                              • Kakav performans Tsonge. Malo sam se podsetio duela iz 2011 i totalno sam bio zaboravio kakve je voleje odigrao Francuz. Ne pamtim kada sam poslednji put video da neko ovako odigra na mrezi. Voleji, poluvoleji, overhead BH sve izvedeno sa toliko osecaja. Preporucujem da ogledate ovaj kratak pregled meca. Stvarno steta za Tsongu sto nije vise uradio u svojoj karijeri, toliko pobeda ima protiv najbolje trojice ali je najbitnije meceve gubio. A i stoji da nije bilo Novaka, da bi verovatno imao bolju karijeru od Mareja

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