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Rafa, Roger rift emerges at Australian OpenMELBOURNE, Australia (AP)—Rafael Nadal has criticized Roger Federer for letting other players “burn themselves” by complaining about tour conditions while maintaining his good reputation by rarely making negative comments about tennis.The two have always been respectful rivals, but the ongoing debate about the overcrowded tennis calendar has exposed a difference of opinion on the eve of the Australian Open.After telling a pre-tournament news conference Sunday he had no intention of being the frontman for the players’ grievances because it has reflected badly on him in the past, Nadal was then critical of 16-time Grand Slam winner Federer in a Spanish-language interview.
Responding to the suggestion that Federer disliked players complaining openly about problems on the tour because it tarnished the image of tennis, Nadal said he took another view.
“No, I totally disagree,” he said in comments translated from Spanish. “For him it’s good to say nothing. Everything positive. ‘It’s all well and good for me, I look like a gentleman,’ and the rest can burn themselves.
“Everyone is entitled to have their own opinions.”
Nadal and No. 4-ranked Andy Murray are among the players who have been outspoken in recent months on issues including an overcrowded calendar and the scheduling of Davis Cup matches. Some players have talked of strike action as recently as Saturday’s player meeting in Melbourne; Nadal has said players may have to resort to “strong action” if there isn’t an “evolution” in the calendar.
Federer and Nadal, who has 10 Grand Slam titles, dominated men’s tennis for the seven years before Novak Djokovic won three of the four majors in 2011 and passed them both for the No. 1 ranking.
They’re both key ambassadors for the tour, helping with promotional work and appearances at tournaments around the globe.
Nadal thinks that when players highlight problems on the tour, the intention is to make it better, not run it down.
“He (Federer) likes the circuit. I like the circuit,” Nadal said. “It’s much better than many other sports but that doesn’t mean that it couldn’t be better. It doesn’t mean there are some things about the tour that could change. The tour is fine, but there are some things that are bad. That’s all we’re saying.
“And the vast majority of players have this same opinion. He’s got a different opinion … if the vast majority have one opinion, and a small minority think differently, maybe it’s them who are wrong.”
For the first time since the 2005 French Open, Federer and Nadal are on the same side of the draw at a major, which means only one of them can reach the final on Jan. 29.
They both start Monday. Third-seeded Federer, a four-time Australian Open winner, is on Rod Laver Arena in a night match against Russian qualifier Alexander Kudryavtsev.
No. 2-ranked Nadal has the last match on Hisense Arena—the second show court at Melbourne Park—against Russian Alex Kuznetsov.
Defending champion Djokovic doesn’t start until Tuesday. Women’s champion Kim Clijsters is third match on Rod Laver Arena on Monday against Maria Joao Koehler of Portugal.
Li Na, who lost the Australian final last year but rebounded to win the French Open to become China’s first Grand Slam singles champion, has a first-round match against Ksenia Pervak of Kazakhstan and No. 1-seededCaroline Wozniacki, still searching for a maiden major title, faces Australia’s Anastasia Rodionova.
While the last eight women’s Grand Slam titles have been won by six women and the draw in Melbourne is wide open, the men’s tournament is widely tipped to go to one of the top four.
Since winning the Australian title in 2009, Nadal lost in the quarterfinals the last two years, both times hampered by injuries. He has had a sore left shoulder since late last season and is planning on taking a rest after the Australian Open.
Many players are calling for more rest due to the increasing pace of the game and the physical strength and endurance required to compete at the highest level.
Federer, now 30, quickly earned a reputation as a tennis statesman when he started accumulating major titles with such a graceful and seemingly effortless style that critics wondered if anyone could challenge him on any surface except clay.
Then Nadal started winning majors away from Roland Garros, with a high-energy game well suited to his muscular physique. But he thinks that has come at a cost.
“I love the game and there’s a lot of things I’m grateful for. The game has allowed me to lead a fantastic lifestyle,” he said. “But to finish your career with pain all over your body, is that a positive? No.
“Maybe (Federer) has got a super body and he’ll finish his career like a rose. Neither myself, nor Murray, nor Djokovic are going to finish our careers like a rose.
“Tennis is an important part of my life, but it’s a tough sport. We’re not like him where it’s effortless to play. All of us, it’s a battle.”
Nadal said his knees, hips, back and ankles were prone to soreness because “every year the ball flies quicker, there’s more intensity. The surfaces are hard.”
The ATP, which runs men’s tennis, declined comment on the player meeting in Melbourne on Saturday where concerns were raised again. Other players, including former top-ranked Lleyton Hewitt, didn’t want to discuss the meeting because they were concentrating on the Grand Slam tournament.
While not wanting to represent the group, Nadal did say he was confident small changes could be made to the calendar without any drastic effects on the sport.
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procitala sam
To je ekstremno sebicna izjava, misli samo na sebe i ono sto njemu odgovora, a uopste ne razmislja o igracima koji su losije rangirani i kojima odgovara da ima vise turnira i kojima je to jedina sansa da nesto zarade.
A da se on pita, igralo bi se 3-4 meseca, na sljaci i Wimbledon i to bi bilo to.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y
Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing
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Rafa da je pametan, ograničio bi se na 12-13 turnira po sezoni, isto važi i za Novaka. Pogotovo je ova sezona zahtjevna i preskakanje nekih turnira je vrlo važno, ne samo za rezultate nego i produžavanje karijere. Ako se moraju pojaviti, lako je tankirati u 1-2 kolu. Ne može on očekivati da će Goaterer podržati, kada je shvatio da mrvice ostaju na kraju godine
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Sa tim da se Fed nikada u svojoj karijeri nije bunio zbog rasporeda, ni kad je imao 24,25 godina, nego je pametno planirao raspored i nije igrao po svaku cenu.
Ali ovima je lakse da kukaju, nego da malo upotrebe mozak i da naprave pravi raspored.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y
Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing
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Bojana, skroz se slazem sa tobom. Meni to zvuci kao da radi sam sebi back up PR za slucaj da mu ova sezona bude gora nego prethodna. I ajde onda da raspalimo po Rogeru, kome sve dodatno sto osvoji dodje kao slag na tortu. On im je pokazao ne samo kako se planira sezona, vec i citava karijera.in another life
I will love you again, RF.
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Dobro ja negdje pročitah. "Rafu, Novaka i Andya očekujem na paraolimpijadi u tridesetim godinama", sve zbog loše planirane sezone i "gladijatorskog" tenisa koji igraju, a koji je apsolutno neodrživ na duže staze. Inače, ovdje je Federer definitivno u pravu !“It's no accident, I think, that tennis uses the language of life. Advantage, service, fault, break, love, the basic elements of tennis are those of everyday existence, because every match is a life in miniature. Points become games become sets become tournaments, and it's all so tightly connected that any point can become the turning point. It reminds me of the way seconds become minutes become hours, and any hour can be our finest. Or darkest. It's our choice.”
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Koji period smatraš pod dužim stazama, 15 godina ? Rafa je rano krenuo, znamo svi kada je osvojio prvi turnir, pa prvi GS, već dugo je u vrhunskom tenisu o biće još bar 2 sezone, pa dolazimo do zaključka da je 10-ak godina vrhunskog tenisa duža staza ili ne?
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Pa Fed je profesionalac od '98., uskoro ce da odigra 1000. mec na tour-u, imao je toliko sezona gde je igrao 80+ i 90+ meceva i nikad se nije zalio da je raspored prenatrpan i da ima previse turnira, da je HC opasan za telo itd.
I Fed je ovde u pravu, posto misli na sve igrace na tour-u, na one koji ispadaju u prvim kolima i kojima je bitno da postoji vise turnira, da bi mogli da zarade, dok Nadal misli iskljucivo na sebe.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y
Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing
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@ notorious
Nepisano pravilo je da igrači koji ranije sazriju, ranije se i "ugase". Nadalu je tek 25 godina, a vidjećemo koliko će još dugo igrati na vrhunskom nivou !
S obzirom na stil igre, (nećemo se zavaravati, ne zna od drugačije nego defanzivno) sumnjam da će još dugo, a za neke velike promjene u igri (ravniji udarci) je malo kasno i to je mač sa dvije oštrice !
Federer je najbolji primjer vrhunskog tenisa na duže staze. Misliš li da bi on da je igru usavršavao prema fizikalijama kao Nadal, igrao ovako dobro u tridesetim i ravnopravno se nosio sa konkurentima ! ? How yes no !“It's no accident, I think, that tennis uses the language of life. Advantage, service, fault, break, love, the basic elements of tennis are those of everyday existence, because every match is a life in miniature. Points become games become sets become tournaments, and it's all so tightly connected that any point can become the turning point. It reminds me of the way seconds become minutes become hours, and any hour can be our finest. Or darkest. It's our choice.”
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Ne govorim o Goatereru, zanimao me dio oko dužih staza, jer je Rafa dovoljno dugo u svijetu tenisa na najvišem nivou, da danas može napustiti i reći da je imao jednu od najboljih karijera ikad, i da je svakako vozio na duže staze. On će biti na najvišem nivou otprilike još 2 sezone (proizvoljna brojka ) i šta ćete onda reći da je 10 sezona malo, ili opet poređenje sa Goat? Tenis je fizički zahtjevniji nego ranije, to svi znamo, sporije podloge, igrači sve brži i jači, pa je Goaterer vjerovatno zadnji primjer nekoga ko se toliko dugo držao, svakako i zbog prelaznog perioda podloga i svega ostalog. Zahtjevniji je jedan meč protiv Novaka, nego 3 protiv Roddick-a, ali ko o čemu vi o broju mečeva Nepisano pravilo je tačno i sa time se slažem, svakako jedan od bitnih faktora.
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Ajde mi onda objasni kako definises Hjuita, on je ista generacija kao Roger, pa je daleko od te brojke, a sve zbog povreda koje su prouzrokovane stilom igre.
I normalno da Nadal moze sutra da kaze da vise nece da igra i uci cu u istoriju kao jedan od najboljih igraca, a sigurno najbolji svih vremena sto se tice sljake, ali mi sad pricamo o drugoj temi.
Koliko je fer traziti skracene sezone i dvogodisnji ranking sistem kad je ocigledno ko ce od tih promena imati koristi?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y
Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing
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Sezonu treba skratiti, ali ne za sve, ne treba nabijati obaveze najboljima da se uvijek pojavljuju, jer ćemo dobiti jad i čemer nakon USO, tj. več smo dobili, a ove godine će biti još gore. I šta uraditi po pitanju toga, Rafa i Novak ne mogu pobjeći jedan od drugoga, opet će odigrati nekoliko finala, nekoliko maratona, i nakon toga treba oporavak, kad da se oporavljaju? Jedini način je što sam već spomenuo, moraju tankirati neke turnire, neke preskočiti, pa ovu sezonu orijentisati na AO, IW, Miami, 2 M na šljaci, RG, 2x Wimb, USO, i iza toga još 1 turnir, sve preko toga je silovanje, jer znamo da će obojica dolaziti do završnice svih tih turnira, i da će biti dosta napornih mečeva koji će iscrpiti i fizički i psihički.
Što se tiče kengura, povreda ne mora biti uzrokovana stilom igre, a kod njega nisu samo povrede u pitanju, nije on shvatao tenis kao Rafa i Novak, ova dvojica su bolesno ambiciozni, Goaterer je na još većem nivou, taj će igrati dok bude mogao hodati
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Fino si to rekao i s dosta toga se slažem. E gledaj sad ovako. Koliko je povreda u karijeri imao Nadal, a koliko Roger i koliko tih povreda je prouzrokovano lošim planiranjem sezone i fizički zahtjevnijim stilom igre !? Nadal je pravi primjer kako se upornost, želja i volja isplati iako se ne posjeduje neki raskošan talenat, ali upravo zbog njegovog stila igre prijetio mu je kraj karijere ! Sumnjam da će još dvije godine igrati na vrhunskom nivou, jer je Novak pokazao kako se igra protiv njega, a taj primjer će slijediti i ostali igrači što znaći da će Nadal imati puno teži posao nego ranije kada se mislilo da ga se može pobijediti samo "crtanjem po terenu" a la Soderling 2009 ! To je jedan od razloga koji će ubrzati pad Rafe, a drugi je previše istrošeno tijelo !
Dobar primjer je i ovaj. Novak ima 24 godine i ima 4 GS-a. To je otprilike vrijeme kada je Federer osvajao svoje prve GS-ove tako da ih možemo uporediti sa tog aspekta !
Pitanje glasi : Da li misliš da će Novak biti konkurentan u tridesetim kao što je to sada Federer ! ? Ja sam siguran da neće, a razloge pretpostavljam da znaš !“It's no accident, I think, that tennis uses the language of life. Advantage, service, fault, break, love, the basic elements of tennis are those of everyday existence, because every match is a life in miniature. Points become games become sets become tournaments, and it's all so tightly connected that any point can become the turning point. It reminds me of the way seconds become minutes become hours, and any hour can be our finest. Or darkest. It's our choice.”
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Vec je skraceno da su slobodni u prvom kolu na mastersima, ne igra se best of 5, nego best of 3 finale i Pariz masters je sa novim rasporedom nepovratno unisten.
A kao sto sam vec rekla, svako od njih moze da planira svoj raspored kako zeli i ako ukljuce malo mozak, doci ce do pravog odgovora, ali valjda je uvek lakse kukati nego nesto uraditi.
I da, Fed ce igrati jos nekoliko godina i silne ljude nervirati.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y
Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing
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