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  • Cus da spase Endi Mareja.. Njega ne bi spasili ni da se igra u 1 set....

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    • Ali, kako shvatih, ovaj predlog se odnosi i na zene, sto u krajnjem ne bi bilo lose, a i odredjene moderatorke odje bi imale manje razloga za etiketiranje sagovornika, kukumakanja zbog neke mizoginije isl.

      Dakle, i muski i zenski prvu nedelju u dva dobijena, a drugu nedelju u 3. Hmmm.. kad god to da uslijedi, bice bolan rez. Ali mislim da to jeste buducnost tenisa...

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      • Neka uvedu sto se tice zena, ali je ekstremna glupost da uvedu kod muskaraca best of 3 i jos to da pravdaju time da se sacuvaju Federer i Marej
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

        Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

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        • Ja bih uveo da žene igraju best of five. Ako zahtevaju ravnopravnost u nagradnom fondu treba da zarađuju pod istim uslovima kao i muškarci.
          “La vostra fama è come il fiore, che nasce e muore, e si secca allo stesso sole che gli ha dato vita dall'acerba terra"

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          • Originally posted by dekkard View Post
            Ja bih uveo da žene igraju best of five. Ako zahtevaju ravnopravnost u nagradnom fondu treba da zarađuju pod istim uslovima kao i muškarci.
            Ne vidim zašto bi to predstavljalo ikakav problem, meni je ekstremno glupo što već odavno nije tako

            Moguće je da postoji nekakvo organizaciono ili logističko objašnjenje, ali svakako je bez veze
            "My body feels great. I mean, it´s only five hours"

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            • Kao što i svi znaju tenis je odličan biznis i počiva na ekonomskim principima. Oni ulažu pare u turnire, stadione krovove, reflektore, usluge prema igračima a za uzvrat očekuju zaradu. Biznismeni žešće profitiraju od toga što poslednjih 15 godina imaju visok kvalitet muškog tenisa. Ubili su se od para samo od toga. Siguran sam da plate nisu ravnopravne zato što više prihoduju od muškog tenisa. Prosek gledanosti svakog sporta je veći na muškoj strani nego na ženskoj. Slično ko i na ovom forumu. Ima 10 žena i 50 muškaraca npr. na teniskim temama.

              Tamo je sve na svom mestu. Matematika je takva da muškarci trenutno zarađuju više jer donose više. Ali svakako da žene zaslužuju više nego što imaju. Kao i u svakom poslu, glavni akteri zarađuju daleko manje nego što zaslužuju.

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              • Sada sam nesto gledao kako funkcionise ovaj novi ranking i moram da priznam da nije ni meni skroz jasno. Pogledajte recimo Timove poene ovde https://www.atptour.com/en/players/d...ings-breakdown. Kao sto vidite, on nije dobio nove poene iz Dohe, odnosno novih 45 poena koje je osvojio prosle nedelje. Po onome sto smo pricali u drugoj temi ( sada pisem ovde, posto mislim da je ovo vise za opste diskusije), tih 45 poena bi Tim trebao da zameni sa recimo 10 poena iz Rima, a to ocigledno nije slucaj.

                Jedino objasnjene koje imam je da Rubljov nije bio dovoljno dobro rangiran pocetkom 2019. godine i da je tada mogao da skuplja poene sa vise manjih turnira. U medjuvremenu jeste napredovao, ali kako se gledaju neki rezultati iz 2019. mislim da njemu nije ukinuto pravo da ima vise rezultata sa manjih turnira. Gledajuci ovu stranicu https://www.atptour.com/en/news/fede...djustments-faq u prvom delu pise da vise ne postoje obavezni turniri, ali onda dole pri dnu pise da se gleda rezultat sa 8 obaveznih mastersa. Takodje sam video da Indian Wells vise nije obavezan masters sto moze recimo da se vidi kod Daniilovih rezultata https://www.atptour.com/en/players/d...ings-breakdown. Sve u svemu nisu lepo objasnili sta se i kako racuna. Ako je nekom sve jasno, bas bih voleo da objasni.
                Last edited by 147; 18-03-21, 21:05.

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                • Mislim da si u pravu sto se tice Rubljova, on je 2019. bio nedovoljno dobro plasiran, tj. nije bio top 30 igrac i onda nema obavezne turnire.

                  A vidis kod Medvedeva da mu za IW stoji 23 poena, to je onih 50% poena iz 2019. (45 poena na 2, pa su zaokruzili). Ali ono to mi nije jasno, zasto mu se ne racuna IW sa 23 poena umesto Madrida/Rima gde ima samo 10 poena?
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

                  Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

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                  • Originally posted by bojanaBG View Post
                    Mislim da si u pravu sto se tice Rubljova, on je 2019. bio nedovoljno dobro plasiran, tj. nije bio top 30 igrac i onda nema obavezne turnire.

                    A vidis kod Medvedeva da mu za IW stoji 23 poena, to je onih 50% poena iz 2019. (45 poena na 2, pa su zaokruzili). Ali ono to mi nije jasno, zasto mu se ne racuna IW sa 23 poena umesto Madrida/Rima gde ima samo 10 poena?
                    Jedino objasnjene koje imam jeste da su skoro ( precutno) odlucili da IW vise nije obavezan masters(cak i za top 30 igrace), zato sto se evo vec dve godine ne igra. Znam da je prvo bila neka racunica da Medvedev moze da osvoji 160 poena u Marseju ( umesto 90 poena koliko ima u Becu ), pa je na kraju ispalo da ipak osvojio 227 poena ( umesto 250-23 iz IW). Cini mi se da su Rim i Madrid i dalje obavezni za ove top igrace. Zato Tim ne moze da zameni 45 poena iz Dohe sa rezultatom iz Rima iz 2019. Sve u svemu mislim da su za top igrace svi mastersi sem IW i Monte Carla obevezni. Obavezni u smislu da im se racunaju poeni sa tih turnira, ne obavezni u smislu da moraju da ih igraju. Rubljov ne spada u tu kategoriju.
                    Last edited by 147; 18-03-21, 21:31.

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                    • Ne znam, u onom sto si stavio pise ovo:

                      In March, the ATP extended the ‘Best Of’ logic for the FedEx ATP Rankings through to the week of 9 August 2021 (inclusive of Toronto). Results from events between 4 March – 5 August, 2019 , that were not played in 2020, will be extended a further 52 weeks, but weighted at 50%.

                      Po meni, to znaci da trenutno vazi best of logika, gledaju se najbolji rezultati, nebitna je kategorija turnira.

                      A kad pogledas Timove poene, vidi se da je njemu izbacen Sinsinati sa 10 poena.
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

                      Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

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                      • Originally posted by bojanaBG View Post
                        Ne znam, u onom sto si stavio pise ovo:

                        In March, the ATP extended the ‘Best Of’ logic for the FedEx ATP Rankings through to the week of 9 August 2021 (inclusive of Toronto). Results from events between 4 March – 5 August, 2019 , that were not played in 2020, will be extended a further 52 weeks, but weighted at 50%.

                        Po meni, to znaci da trenutno vazi best of logika, gledaju se najbolji rezultati, nebitna je kategorija turnira.

                        A kad pogledas Timove poene, vidi se da je njemu izbacen Sinsinati sa 10 poena.
                        U pravu si za Sinsinati. Samo i dalje ima cudnih stvari.
                        Zasto mu nije ubacena Doha umesto Rima ili Majamija? Mozemo mi da diskutujemo, ali mislim da ATP nije dovoljno detaljno objasnio novi nacin bodovanja.
                        Last edited by 147; 18-03-21, 21:40.

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                        • Ne znam, to je i meni misterija.

                          Bas me zanima sta ce biti posle Majamija, jer Tim ne igra, sto znaci da ce tu da ima 5 poena i da li ce onda da mu ubace Dohu?
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

                          Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

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                          • Dakle, definitivno trenutno postoje obavezni i neobavezni turniri, obavezni su oni koji su se odrzali pre pandemije, a neobavezni oni koji su se odrzali posle pandemije plus ovi koji se racunaju sa 50% poena.

                            Zato se recimo Cicipasu ne racuna USO 2020. i 90 poena odatle, ali mu se racuna Kanada 2019. i 10 poena sa tog turnira.

                            https://www.atptour.com/en/players/s...ings-breakdown
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

                            Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

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                            • Bas tako. Sada sve ima smisla Lepo si to zakljucila, bravo.

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                              • Nisam sama, konsultovala sam se
                                Ali makar smo resili i tu misteriju, kako funkcinise ranking dok nesto ponovo ne promene
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

                                Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

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