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  • Originally posted by miloolja View Post
    Cisto sumnjam, al ajd..

    Misliš da neće biti ovoga u Aziji?

    Prilično sam siguran da hoće.

    Ne vidim zašto se ne bi bodovalo ovo što se nastavi. Sezona se zvanično nastavlja. Tako će i bodovanje, samo je pitanje kako za početak.

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    • Sto se tice bodova, Novaku nije moglo gore da bude. Pocinje se sa Sinsinatijem, dje Novak brani polufinale, a Rafa i Thiem pocinju od nule. Oni nisu ni ucestvovali prosle godine, tako da teoretski Novak moze da izgubi prvo mjesto prije samog USO. Jel tako?
      Onda ti mastersi na sljaci.. niko lud nece moci to sve da ispostuje. A Novak tu ima gomilu da brani, finale i titulu. Nema trika da to sacuva, izgubice masu tu. Pa ovo je bruka...

      Ajde Sinsinati, on je super da se ljudi uigraju malo za sami slem. Ali 2 mastersa na sljaci u jedine dvije nedelje pauze izmedju 2 slema je silovanje.

      A jos gora je ta prica da se zamrzne bodovanje. Kakva ludnica..

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      • Nemoguce je napraviti format koji ce svima odgovarati, svi sto trabunjaju su obicne tetke koje traze dlaku u jajetu u ovim abnormalnim vremenima. Nek su ovakav kalendar donijeli, pusti ljude da igraju ko sta moze i to je to. Ovo mi djeluje prezanimljivo, jedva cekam

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        • Originally posted by Srkisa View Post
          ...bar su mnogo manje sanse da se tamo zarazis nego u

          cekaj,kad je igrao u beogradu,nije mogao da se zarazi?

          ja bih voleo da se RG ne odrzi,oni su i poceli ceo cirkus...
          Wizard

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          • Zna li se definitivna odluka o broju ljudi u boksu tenisera na USO?

            Послато са SM-N975F уз помоћ Тапатока

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            • Ja mislim da i dalje vazi jedna osoba na samim terenima, ali nisam 100% sigurna.
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

              Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

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              Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you...
              with experience.

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              • Dobro je. Konacno imamo kalendara. Kalendar je daleko od idealnog ali mogao je biti i gori, mnogo gori. U danim okolnostima, nema dobrog kalendara.

                Po mom misljenju, izbor turnira za Novaka je lak. Prijavljuje Sinsinati, USO, Rim i RG. Sinisinati i Rim igra kao pripremne turnire uz minimalni utrosak energije. U slucaju da rano ispadne na USO, treba da igra i Madrid.

                Naravno bice problema i sa kondicijom i sa formom. Svi ce imati te probleme. Neki vise a neki manje.

                ----
                Bodovanje nije rijeseno jer ne znaju sto ce se igarti do kraja godine. Sve ce biti u redu ako shvataju da je jedna problem nerjesiv. Od trenutka kada se tur vrati u normalu, a kako sad stvari stoje, to ce najranije biti na AO 2021, treba godina dana da ise dobije regularna rang lista. Kako racunati period od marta 2020. do janura 2022?

                Za mene postoji samo jedno razumno rjesenje:

                1.
                Bodovi se oduzimaju kao sto je uobicajeno

                2.
                Prva tri mjeseca poslije pocetka tura, svi imaju zastitni ranking tj. bodove kao u martu 2020. To se samo racuna za postavljanje nosioca. Potom se koristi provizorna lista.


                4.
                Provizorna lista se koristi citavo vrijeme za racunanje broja nedjelja. Osnovna ideja provizoen liets je da se sve sto je igrac osvojio u prethodnihe 12 mjeseci racuna.
                U tom slucaju bi imali period sa 5 slemova tj. viskom bodova.

                Racunanje nedjelja na vrhu zavisi od toga sto se igralo u zadnjih 12 mjeseci. Tu stvari postaju komplikovane. Jedna mogucnost je ovakva, ili slicna, formula:

                broj nedejlja na prvom mjestu = I*(stvarni broj nedejelja)

                I je intenzitet igranje koji ne moze biti veci od jedan i racuna se:

                [(Broj selmova)/4+(Broj poena na svim turnirma u prethodnih 12 mjeseci)/34500]/2 - zaokruzeno na jednu decimalu, ne moze biti veci od 1.

                5.
                Po ovom novom kalendaru, uz preskakanje azijske sezome i igranje evropske do kraja godine kako je planirano, intenzitet igranja bi izgledao ovako:

                Code:
                Nedjelja	Intenzitet
                wk 12-16/2020	1
                wk 17-22/2020	0.9
                wk 23-27/2020	0.7
                wk 28-29/2020	0.6
                wk 30-36/2020	0.5
                wk 37-39/2020	0.6
                wk 40-52/2020	0.7
                wk 01-20/2021	0.7
                wk 21-23/2021	0.8
                wk 24-25/2021	0.9
                wk 26-27/2021	1
                wk 28-39/2021	1.1  (ograniceno na 1)
                wk 40-52/2021	1
                Odnosno, od marta 2020. do decembra 2021. bi imali intezitet igranja:

                1.0 - 32 nedjelje
                0.9 - 8
                0.8 - 3
                0.7 - 38 (najbrojnije)
                0.6 - 5
                0.5 - 7

                6.
                Postoji i komplikovanije i jednostavnije varijanta iste ideje.

                Ako se racuna samo ukupni broj osvojenih poena:

                1.0 - 24 nedjelje
                0.9 - 11
                0.8 - 8
                0.7 - 8
                0.6 - 38 (najbrojnije)
                0.5 - 4

                Ako se racuna samo broj slemova:

                1.00 - 41 nedjelja
                0.75 - 40
                0.50 - 12

                ----------------------

                Ako pandemija dozvoli ovaj novi kalendar, Novak ce sigurno biti 305 nedjelja broj jedan. Nesluzbeno naravo. Svejedno, ako nekoga u ovom trenutku pitate ko je broj jedna u tenisu, odgovor je Novak Djokovic.
                Last edited by NI; 18-06-20, 10:20.

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                • Originally posted by bojanaBG View Post
                  Ja mislim da i dalje vazi jedna osoba na samim terenima, ali nisam 100% sigurna.
                  E to bi bas bila velika glupost, ne vjerujem.. Jer, tribine su prazne, ima se komocije da tu budu svi koje igrac inace ima pravo da povede sa sobom. Kad su dozvolili da u jednoj hotelskoj sobi boravi dvoje, ne kapiram zasto bi na tribinama smjelo samo jedno.

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                  • Originally posted by Joker View Post
                    E to bi bas bila velika glupost, ne vjerujem.. Jer, tribine su prazne, ima se komocije da tu budu svi koje igrac inace ima pravo da povede sa sobom. Kad su dozvolili da u jednoj hotelskoj sobi boravi dvoje, ne kapiram zasto bi na tribinama smjelo samo jedno.
                    Nije stvar u tribinama, stvar je u svlacionici i u svim tim prostorijama gde se motaju igraci, imas 256 singl igraca i jos po 32 dubl tima.
                    Ok, sigurno svi oni ne vode 2 i vise osoba, ali mozda na pocetku turnira bude jedna osoba, a posle kako se smanjuje broj igraca, povecavaju taj broj.
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

                    Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

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                    Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you...
                    with experience.

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                    • Mislim da bez problema moze da ih tuzi ili svi da se udruze i da ih tuze zbog diskriminacije

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

                      Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

                      sigpic

                      Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you...
                      with experience.

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                      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

                        Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

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                        Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you...
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                        • Originally posted by bojanaBG View Post
                          Mislim da bez problema moze da ih tuzi ili svi da se udruze i da ih tuze zbog diskriminacije
                          oni mogu da tuze i sto je teren plav,isto mu dodje-izgubice...ako sam dobro razumeo ni miks dublovi ne igraju.
                          Wizard

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                          • Ali igraju dublovi, ovde nikako ne igraju osobe sa invaliditetom
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

                            Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

                            sigpic

                            Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you...
                            with experience.

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                            • bez obzira,imaju razlog,verovatno valjan zasto ne iga miks...

                              siguran sam da isto tako imaju razlog zasto ne igraju osobe sa hendikepom i mislim organizatorima da veruju da cine najbolje-isticao sam vec nekoliko puta da ih smatram najpostenijim,plus tamo se stvarno za svasta tuzi (neko je i naveo busar)
                              Wizard

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                              • Jedno je miks dubl, ne postoji samo igrac koji igra miks, tako da dubl igracima nije nista uskraceno.
                                Ali igracima sa hendikepom jeste uskraceno pravo da igraju, da se takmice i u krajnjem da zarade pare.
                                To bi bilo kao kad bi neki poslodavac vratio sve na posao osim ove sa hendikepom i jos im ne bi dao platu, samo iz razloga sto imaju hendikep.

                                U svakom slucaju, ITF se oglasio

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfzsyKXSs-Y

                                Here's the most remarkable thing to me about Federer: Seems to me that the more you know about tennis, the more amazed you are by the guy. If you know nothing at all about tennis, he's amazing. If you know a little something about tennis—maybe you have played a few times in your life—he's more amazing. If you know a little more about tennis—maybe you played in high school and once had illusions of becoming a pro—he's even MORE amazing. And if you were a great player—if you are a McEnroe or a Connors or a Jim Courier—then Federer is preposterously amazing

                                sigpic

                                Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you...
                                with experience.

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