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  • Originally posted by Jax Teller View Post
    Kao što je recimo Baggio
    A sta tek da kaze Pietro Vjerhovod
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    Always somewhere Miss you where I've been I'll be back to love you again

    U crnim rupama možeš ludo da se zezaš. Da lebdiš iznad zemlje. Da slušaš rock ´n´ roll.Dozivaš kišu.
    Ili da mazneš neku lepu ribu. Samo je bezveze kada se probudiš….

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    • Originally posted by Jax Teller View Post
      Kao što je recimo Baggio
      Samo najdrastičniji primer. Siniša je jedan od igrača, Vijeri, Pipo Inzagi, tu je Ibra, tu je i Pirlo (mada je on bio još dečak kada je otišao iz Intera), to poslednjih godina. Kada bih krenuo listati u poslednjih 6, 7 decenija, sigurno bih mogao ispaliti nekoliko desetina igrača koji su bili cenjeni u Italiji u periodima kada su igrali.
      Mada neki klubovi nisu radili transfere međusobno ili su oni više bili splet neobičnih okolnosti (Roma i Lacio, pre svega - Selmoson iz Lacija u Romu šezdesetih i Čičo Kordova iz Rome u Lacio sedamdesetih; Đenova i Sampdorija, takođe). U Italiji je deo folklora maltene.
      Last edited by Crni Đorđe; 03-12-16, 22:43.
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      • Ili Bobo Vieri
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        • Originally posted by Jax Teller View Post
          Ili Bobo Vieri
          Bobo je pričao da su ga jedino pare interesovale, te je prihvatao nove ponude vrlo lako. Bio je ubica, moglo mu se - niko nije gubio transferima.
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          • Evo jos ovo da pitam pa da ne idemo u off previše, sjećate li se da Bobo nije u Atalanti imao platu nego su mu davali neke masne pare za svaki gol?
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            • Originally posted by Jax Teller View Post
              Evo jos ovo da pitam pa da ne idemo u off previše, sjećate li se da Bobo nije u Atalanti imao platu nego su mu davali neke masne pare za svaki gol?
              Da da, on je imao takozvani ugovor "po učinku". Želeo je da se vrati u formu, pošto su počeli kilogrami da ga "napadaju" i Atalanta je pristala na te uslove. Već je bio jednom nogom u penziji, nije se previše kretao, nije imao mogućnosti za to.

              Može ovo admin baciti u Seriju A, ova tema je meni nepresušna.
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              • Leipzig gubi. Bayern rastavlja Wolfsburga.

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                • Robben namestio levicu

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                  • Lajpcig namjestio, suta nema protiv strasnog Inglstada
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                    • U Bundesu ovo kolo više crvenih kartona nego golova...

                      8 utakmica, 6 crvenih...
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                      • Ovo je katastrofa za njemacki fudbal

                        Bayern Munich now double the revenue of closest Bundesliga team (Dortmund)



                        From a domestic perspective, Bayern’s gap to the second club (Borussia Dortmund) was €193 million in 2014/15, which was only surpassed in France, where PSG were €371 million ahead of Marseille. However, the gap is much smaller in Italy, England and Spain.

                        Moreover, the gap to the 3rd placed club in Germany (Schalke) was €254 million, which is a huge competitive advantage. This is much more than the gaps in England and Italy, though the difference is even higher in Spain and France.

                        Following Bayern’s impressive 2015/16 revenue growth, the gap to Dortmund has now widened to an astonishing €307 million: €592 million vs. €285 million. In other words, Bayern now earn more than twice as much as their closest domestic competitor.

                        For 2015/16, on a like-for-like basis, Bayern’s growth to €592 million has made inroads into the top clubs’ advantage. Real Madrid still lead the way with €620 million, though this is only €28 million ahead of Bayern, closely followed by Manchester United €618 million and Barcelona €612 million.

                        Off the pitch, Bayern’s dominance remains unchallenged, as they have just announced record profits and revenue for the 2015/16 season. Profit before tax shot up by €23 million (72%) from €31 million to €54 million, though profit after tax “only” rose by €9 million (39%) from €24 million to €33 million, due to a higher €21 million tax charge.

                        Revenue increased by a massive €118 million (25%) from €474 million to €592 million, just shy of the €600 million threshold. All revenue streams grew, though commercial income led the way, increasing by €65 million (23%) from €278 million to €343 million, driven by sponsorship, up €56 million (49%) to €170 million, and merchandising, up €6 million (6%) to €108 million.

                        Broadcasting income actually rose more in percentage terms (39%) or by €42 million from €106 million to €148 million with the growth split fairly evenly between the Bundesliga (€21 million) and the Champions League (€16 million). Match day income was up €12 million (13%) to go above €100 million for the first time (€102 million).
                        Bayern highlighted the growth in EBITDA (Earnings Before Interest, Taxation, Depreciation and Amortisation), which rose by €31 million (28%) from €111 million to €143 million. This has more than doubled from the recent low of €69 million in 2011.

                        It should be noted that Bayern’s definition includes transfer income, but the growth was even better using the more generally accepted definition of recurring income, i.e. excluding lumpy profits from player sales. This metric improved by €46 million (75%) from €62 million to €108 million.

                        That’s very good, but to place it into perspective, Manchester United announced 2015/16 EBITDA of €230 million, i.e. more than twice as much, so it’s not surprising that they could pay so much money for Schweinsteiger and still leave him in the stands.

                        In Germany Bayern’s revenue places them in a league of their own. Not only is the gap large, but it is getting larger. Since 2009, their closest challenger, Borussia Dortmund, managed to grow their revenue by an impressive €179 million, but this was still €123 million less than Bayern’s growth in this period.

                        The situation is even worse for the other German clubs. Since 2009 Schalke have only grown revenue by €95 million, while Stuttgart’s revenue was flat and Hamburg’s actually fell. This has resulted in Germany only having three clubs in the Money League top 20, compared to five clubs in 2009. This has inevitably led to concerns that Bayern’s financial supremacy will be bad for competition in Germany.

                        Although commercial deals are very important to all German clubs, Bayern still earn significantly more than the others. In fact, the commercial gap to Dortmund, which had narrowed in 2014/15, rose to €191 million last season, the highest ever difference between the two.

                        Bayern’s returning president Uli Hoeness said that Dortmund would need to have a more consistent track record of winning trophies if they hoped to match Bayern’s global appeal, but that is a tough ask, given their revenue shortfall.

                        However, the Bundesliga’s chief executive, Christian Seifert, noted, “We are now number two behind the Premier League (in terms of domestic rights).” Although he described the TV market as challenging, Seifert did emphasise the growth prospects: “Germany is the biggest single market in Europe, but pay TV still does not have the market position of other countries. There is a lot of potential though.”

                        Some believe that the relatively low amount paid for international rights can be ascribed to Bayern’s dominance, which has made the league boring, but Seifert argued that overseas interest was not purely in the title winners: “Last year we saw very competitive games to decide who will play in the Champions League, who will play in the Europa League or relegation.”

                        As a result, Bayern only received €26 million from the TV pool in 2015/16, even though they reached the Champions League semi-final, compared to Juventus €53 million, Roma €48 million, Manchester City €46 million, Chelsea €45 million and PSG €40 million.

                        Little wonder that Bayern are strong supporters of UEFA’s proposed change in the TV pool distribution system, so that each country will retain much less from its national TV deal than the current arrangement (reportedly down from around 50% to 15%) with the vast majority going into the central plot in future. With a completely straight face, Rummenigge observed, “I am pleased that we have managed to reach quick and simple decisions for the good of football.”


                        Perhaps the biggest threat to Bayern’s position in Germany is the way clubs have started to get round the “50+1” rule, which dictates that members must own a minimum of 50% of the shares plus a deciding vote, theoretically preventing a club from being subject to the whims of an individual owner and taking on excessive debt.

                        However, RB Leipzig, owned by Austrian energy drink manufacturer Red Bull, have implemented a scheme whereby a member must pay €800 a year (compared to Bayern’s €60) and they reserve the right to reject any application without justification. This means that Leipzig only have 17 members (and most of them are Red Bull employees) compared to 284,000 at Bayern.

                        This may not break the letter of the rule, but it is clearly against the spirit, though what other option does an “upstart” club have if it wants to mount a genuine challenge to Bayern’s financial dominance?

                        Though not entirely convincing, Hoeness seemed to welcome the emergence of RB Leipzig, “The more I think about it, it is good to have really good rivals. Good for us and the competition.”

                        Captain Philippe Lahm followed a similar line after Bayern’s recent defeat to Dortmund, though his remarks were heavily laced with sarcasm: “It’s wonderful for the league, exactly what everybody had wished for.”

                        This was a reference to people becoming fed up with the predictability of Bayern winning the Bundesliga. Indeed, before he knew he was joining, Ancelotti had observed, “Bayern win the league with their hands in their pockets.”

                        A large part of that success has been due to their financial strength, as acknowledged by Dreesen: “FC Bayern is in outstanding shape, operating at the highest Champions League level in financial terms. Our club is in a superb position. That’s been the case for the last few years, and that's more than ever true for 2016. Our entrepreneurial objective is the maximisation of sporting success alongside financial prudence.”

                        For 2015/16, on a like-for-like basis, Bayern’s growth to €592 million has made inroads into the top clubs’ advantage. Real Madrid still lead the way with €620 million, though this is only €28 million ahead of Bayern, closely followed by Manchester United €618 million and Barcelona €612 million.
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                        • Nista od Bazoera u PL iako je u poslednja dva dana bio na pragu prelaska u Arsenal ,a pominjali su se i Mancesteri, zvanicno u Volfsburgu.
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                          • Prvih deset minuta vec 1-1, Hoff-Dortmund
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                            • Ovo izgleda kao da može 20 golova pasti...
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                              • Reuse dobi crveni, a jos gube.. Nije ni kraj prvog poluvremena.
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