Liga sampiona i Liga Evrope 2012/2013

[Prototype]

Razbio ih Bayern, ocekivao sam pobedu bavaraca ali ne i ovako razbijanje. Barsa nije ni senka od one ekipe iz prethodnih godina.

Postali "one man team", bez Messija ne mogu nista da urade. Nemaju probojna krila, Pedro i Alexis, pa ne zna se koje gori od njih dvojce. Alves i Jordi Alba spavaju u napad, pre svega Alba koji nije fizicki jak kao Alves pa da pokrije celu levu stranu. Iniesta previse statican, a neko je govorio pre da je bitniji za ekipu od Messija, smesno.

I ovako rovitog Messia su primorali da igra, jer nemaju nikakvo drugo resenje. Nemaju plan B. I sami znaju da je bolje da im Messi igra sa jednom nogom nego bez njega. Covek se video nije, nije mogao igraca da pretrci.

Dok jedan Bayern skoro svakog igraca u timu moze da zameni, vise formacija da igra. Moze igrati ofanzivno, defanzivno, na kontre, sa velikim posedom... ma mogu igrati kako pozele.

[Sir Giggsy]

Drago mi je zbog Bajerna iako ih ne simpatisem generalno, ali svakako mi vise prija njihova pobeda pogotovo na ovaj nacin!

Kao sto su mnogi rekli, Barsa nema plan B a veceras nije im ni plan A bio od pomoci...
Neka oni i dalje furaju liliputance u ekipi pa nece daleko stici sa tim!

A sutra svim srcem uz BVB (ne racunajuci Gecea);).

[prskaj]

Ma to je skroz nebitno, Bayern igra sa 10 igraca, Gomez pipnuo veceras 5 puta loptu i sesti put kad je dao gol. Mandzara, Gomez, Pizzaro, isto ti je to, cak je i Jupp to rekao...

Ma naravno, ali samo on moze neke stvari raditi. Rud van Nisterloj je za njega dalekometni davac golova

[Brajkula]

Ова утакмица ми је помогла да сконтам заправо колико је Јувентус јак !

[Freshman]

Ова утакмица ми је помогла да сконтам заправо колико је Јувентус јак !

A sta je onda Arsenal ???

[Wilshere_10]

Ова утакмица ми је помогла да сконтам заправо колико је Јувентус јак !

Ako je suditi po dvomecima s Bayernom, mi bi vas nakantali.

[Brajkula]

A sta je onda Arsenal ???

За њих немам појма, Јувентус црна земља!

Spoiler

[maliajnstajn]

Arsenal jedini tim koji je uspio zadrzati cistu mrezu na Alianzu i jos dati 2 gola, respect

[Nebojsa]

Bajern iz Minhena do sada je u polufinalu najjaceg takmicenja igrao 15 puta. Samo jednom je izgubio utakmicu kuci.

[powerslave]

Odavno nisam ovako uzivao u nekoj utakmici a da nije Junajted u pitanju Kako Bajern gazi.Kakav je to klub

[b64Milos]

Ako je suditi po dvomecima s Bayernom, mi bi vas nakantali.

A ako se sagleda realnost, bilo bi obrnuto :-)

[danijelkr]

Bayern Munich 4-0 Barcelona: Bayern produce an astonishingly dominant performance

Spoiler

Bayern Munich didn’t try to outpass Barcelona, and instead ruthlessly exposed their traditional weaknesses.

Jupp Heynckes selected Mario Gomez rather than Claudio Pizarro as Mario Mandzukic’s replacement, and decided Jerome Boateng was a better option than Daniel van Buyten because of his extra speed.

Tito Vilanova’s side was as expected: Lionel Messi was fit, and Alexis Sanchez started as wide forward on the left, with Pedro Rodriguez on the right.

Barcelona enjoyed a decent opening ten minutes, but Bayern were strategically perfect and fully deserved to win by such a convincing scoreline.

The starting line-ups

Bayern pressing

Pressing was always likely to be important in deciding the shape of this game, and Bayern’s pressing strategy worked well. They used an approach that has becoming increasingly popular in top-level games over the past year: they pressed the opposition at goal-kicks, preventing them from playing the ball forward into midfield easily…but once that press had been passed through, Bayern dropped deep into a solid defensive shape, and from then rarely pressed the Barcelona defenders.

Barcelona conceded possession cheaply inside their own half – but not always when under heavy pressure. The spell of pressure that eventually resulted in Bayern’s opener started from two Barcelona mistakes – Marc Bartra misplaced a pass which resulted in an unnecessary corner being conceded, then as soon as Barcelona had cleared the danger, Busquets lost the ball in a similarly dangerous position.

Barcelona actually pressed higher than Bayern in the opening stages, despite Lionel Messi appearing unfit and unable to lead the pressure as effectively as usual. But pressing high isn’t always useful if not backed up by the midfield, and Bayern could often pass their way out of trouble – particular credit should go to Boateng, who played a couple of excellent vertical passes to bypass the half-hearted pressure.

Bayern defensive shape

Bayern were admirably disciplined without the ball, especially considering the anticipated problems with Mandzukic’s absence – he’d been brilliant in a defensive sense against both Arsenal and Juventus. Gomez and Thomas Muller dropped deep and one always occupied Sergio Busquets, preventing him from starting attacks. Barcelona’s two centre-backs and the other two central midfielders were all given more time on the ball than Busquets.

The other two attackers, Arjen Robben and Franck Ribery, were extremely disciplined in tracking Barcelona’s full-backs. Ribery was pushed back by Daniel Alves’ forward bursts and had a couple of nervous moments, but overall Bayern were compact and their two banks of four moved across the pitch together seamlessly. Messi only found space between the lines a couple of times, and instead had to venture out to the right flank to collect the ball.

Javi Martinez pressured Andres Iniesta, while Bastian Schweinsteiger – despite being outfoxed by Xavi Hernandez a couple of times in the opening minutes – continued to shut down energetically. Barcelona’s midfielders all played deeper than they would have liked – Busquets dropped into the back to get space, Xavi roamed around in front of his own defence rather than getting involved in a proper midfield battle, while Iniesta spent too much time doing the job of Xavi, and not enough time linking midfield with attack.

They showed some intelligence to vary their positioning and find space, but ultimately their passes were always in front of Bayern, never looking to penetrate.

Martinez and physicality

The game’s key player was Martinez, whose specific task was to stop Iniesta (something he did effectively) but who was more generally used as a powerful destroyer in the centre of the pitch. While a reliable distributor of the ball, Martinez played almost solely a physical role here – no fewer than 20 players attempted more passes than him, but no-one completed more tackles, and he committed twice as many fouls as anyone else.

He was also a presence at attacking transitions, charging forward suddenly to support attacks, as he’d done in the 3-1 victory away at Arsenal. It was that sheer energy and physicality that typified Bayern tonight, and while Martinez rightly remains a less celebrated player than Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets, arguably none of them could have played this all-round role.

Martinez physically unsettled Iniesta, and shortly after he’d fouled Barcelona’s playmaker in the first half, it was interesting to see Busquets step forward into a challenge with Martinez, as if he understood his presence was needed higher up. (Busquets has praised Martinez’s physical abilities in the past – “Javi Martínez has a spectacular physical potential. He gets all around the pitch and wins possession back everywhere. He’s the lungs of the team.”) Iniesta’s last action of the night, meanwhile, was cynically fouling Martinez after getting caught out of position.

It was in this respect that Barcelona missed Seydou Keita, one of the underrated squad members under Guardiola. He brought energy and power to the midfield zone, and while he wasn’t always a regular, he started the away leg of the semi-final in 2009, 2010 and 2011. Alex Song, signed as Keita’s replacement, isn’t considered up to the job.

Set-pieces

Barcelona had a considerable height disadvantage at corners, and this proved to be fatal. Gerard Pique is good in the air, while Busquets and Bartra are capable, but Barcelona’s problem in this respect was obvious against PSG in the previous round, and was even more problematic with Martinez, Dante, Gomez and Muller all forward for corners.

Barcelona could have helped themselves by not allowing Bayern 11 corners (some of them conceded very cheaply), and Bayern’s first two goals came from similar moves following dead ball situations – a header back across goal, rather than a direct attempt – for the goalscorer to convert. Even Bayern’s set-piece dominance involved cohesion and teamwork.

As it happens, Barca’s best chances were from set-pieces too – Bartra had two attempts, as many as the rest of the side combined.



Counter-attacking

Barcelona increasingly pushed men forward in the second half, and were inevitably undone on the break. The one thing Bayern didn’t do effectively in the first half was dribble – 12 of their 14 take-ons were unsuccessful – but having spent so long being disciplined, Ribery and Robben could now storm forward at speed.

For the third goal, Pique went haring forward to become an additional centre-forward, leaving the defence exposed, and at the attacking transition Bayern went the length of the pitch with a counter-attack reminiscent of Bayern’s 2009/10 season (and, specifically, Robben’s debut against Wolfsburg when he and Ribery constantly combined on the break). A Ribery dribble also played a part in Muller’s fourth.

Lack of changes

Vilanova seemed uncertain of his Plan B – Pedro and Sanchez swapped wings, but only in the 83rd minute, at 4-0 down, did Vilanova turn to the bench – David Villa replaced Pedro.

Heynckes made a logical change at 2-0, introducing holding midfielder Luiz Gustavo for Gomez to bring extra energy and defensive strength to the midfield. Muller went upfront and Schweinsteiger played a little higher, from where he influenced the game much more in an attacking sense in the final 20 minutes, as Bayern continued to test Victor Valdes.

Conclusion

For all the talk of Barcelona influencing Bayern in terms of possession play, and Bayern’s supposed willingness to take on Barca at their own game, this was nothing of the sort. It was a fine technical display from Bayern, but was primarily based around the (only?) three tactical weaknesses that have been obvious in Barcelona over the past five years – Bayern were physical, they took advantage of extra height at set-pieces, and then they counter-attacked with wide players when Barcelona had men high up the pitch.

That is essentially the standard recipe when taking on Barcelona – it’s what Jose Mourinho did when Real Madrid first appeared capable of defeating Pep Guardiola’s side, for example. It wasn’t necessarily the idea behind the strategy that was crucial, it was the fact Bayern carried it out so efficiently and ruthlessly with top-class footballers.

[danijelkr]

Treca utakmica ove sezone ova dva kluba u prethodna dva Borussija je dosta bolje prosla i ovo je prilika Real Madridu da to ispravi. U historiji okrsaja ova dva kluba bilo je sest utakmica i to sve u Ligi sampiona. Sve te utakmice su ostale upamcene ako ne po dobroj igri onda po neobicnim situacijama kao sto je izvaljivanje stativa na Santiago Bernabeu. O historiji okrsaja Borusije Dortmun i Real Madrida mozete procitat vise u ovom postu

Put do 1/2 finala

Borussia Dortmund je nakon razocaravajuce prosle sezone u Ligi sampiona, zeljela pokazati ove sezone svijetu da je to bilo najvise zbog neiskustva mlade ekipe na celu sa relativno mladim trenerom Jurgenom Kloppom. Zrijeb u Monacu nije bio blagonaklonan prema njima jer su za protivnika dobili grupu u kojoj su se nasli Real Madrid, Manchester City i Ajax koju su odmah prozvali grupom smrti. Ali pobjedama nad Real Madridom i Mancheterom Cityem, uz nerijesene rezultate na Santiago Bernabeu i Etihadu i ocekivane pobjede nad Ajaxom su im obezbjedili prvu poziciju. Nakon dominatne grupne faze su ostalim konkurentima pokazali sta im je cilj ove sezone, a to je sami kraj.

Ako im zrijeb u Monacu nije bio blagonaklonan zrijeb za 1/8 finale je bio relativno blagonaklonan, jer su za protivnika dobili Shakhtar koji u trenutku odigravanja ovog dvomeca nije bio u takmicarskoj formi. U prvoj utakmici u Ukrajini Borussiji je Hummels izjednacujucim golom pred sami kraj obezbjedio veliku prednost za uzvrat. Iako se ocekivao neizvjestan uzvrat ipak je spremnost i takmicarska forma Borussije dosla do izrazaja i rezultatom 3:0 naizgled lagano prosli.

Ponovo kuglice u Nyonu su bile naklonjene Borussiji jer su dobili jednog od laksi protivnika, ali taj lagani protivnik je nanijeo tolike probleme kojima se nisu nadali nakon prve utakmice u Malage kada su nadigrali protivnika, ali nisu uspjeli postici pogodak koji bi im omogucio laksi uzvrat. U nenormalnom uvratu su se uspjeli vratit iz ''mrtvi'' i izboriti nakon 1998. godine polufinale Lige sampiona.

Vec sam spomenu da je Real Madrid bio u grupnoj fazi zajedno sa Borussiom Dortmund u kojoj su napocetku vazili za glavnog favorita, ali losa forma, povrede i narusena atmosfera u ekipi je dovela do toga da su na tezi nacin izborili sljedecu fazu. Dvije ocekivane pobjede nad Ajaxom, pobjeda i nerijeseno protiv Manchester Citya i jedan bod protiv Borusssije Dortmund su bila dovoljna za prolazak dalje i drugu poziciju.

U 1/8 finala cekao ih je veliki Manchester United, pa moze se reci da ih zrijeb nije pomilovao. Nakon dvije vec sad mozemo reci velike utakmice Real Madrid je uspjeo izbaciti engleskog sampiona i dokopat se sljedece faze u kojoj su dobili protivnika po mjeri turski Galatasaray. Mnogi su poslije prve utakmice Real Madrid vec stavili u bubanj za polufinalne utakmice, ali tako nisu mislili igraci Galatasaray koji su vjerovali da mogu iznenaditi i vratit se iz mrtvi. Ipak opustenost i indolentnost Real Madrida nije do kraja kaznjena.

Trenutna forma

Od kad je bilo jasno da Barcelona u Spaniji osvaja prvenstvo, a Bayern u Njemackoj igre i forma Real Madrida i Borussije Dortmund u domacem prvenstvu nisu relevantne. Prvenstvo je posluzilo da se odmore bitni igraci i pruzi sansa igracima koji tu sansu rijetko dobijaju. I unatoc tome Borussiji Dortmundu i Real Madridu nije niko ozbiljno priprijetio drugoj poziciji. U posljednjih pet utakmica oba kluba nemaju poraz u domacem prvenstu.

Za ovu utakmicu Borussija Dortmund ce imati sve igrace na raspolaganju, laksu povredu ima Kehl. Ipak Kehl i Sven Bender koji su odmarali zbog povreda ce biti spremni kao i prvi napadac Lewandowski. Dok kod Real Madrida u sastavu sigurno nece biti Arbeloe zbog kartona, na povredu se zale Essien, Modric i Marcelo koji bi trebali biti spreman. Mou se nada da ce na raspolaganju imati Agela di Mariu koji bi trebao postat otac i dobio je postedu pred utakmicu.

Kljucni igraci

U obje ekipe pojedinci se tek isticu kad cijeli tim radi za jednog, a jedan za sve. Najcesce su to kod Borussije sad mozemo reci u neku ruku izdajnik Gotze koji je igrac sa najvise pokusaja u svojoj ekipi na gol protivnika i u cijelom takmicenju zauzima 4. mjesto. Kad spominjemo kljucne igrace onda se moraju spomenuti Lewandowski koji sa 6 golova prvi strijelac Borussije u ovom takmicenju i Gündogan koji je postao igrac od kojeg i najvise zavisi igra. Podatak da Borussija sa njim daje 2.29 golova po utakmici, a bez njega manje od gola po utakmici (0,86), govori koliko znaci njegovo prisustvo.

Sto se Real Madrida od kljucni igraca prvo treba spomenuti Ronalda koji svojom brzinom i projektilima rusi sve takticke zamisli protivnickog trenera, sto je dosta klubova ove godine osjetilo na svojoj kozi. Jedanaest golova u ovom takmicenju ga je svrstalo na sami vrh liste strijelaca, a ubjedljivo je prvi sto se pokusaja na protivnicki gol tice ukupno 49 pokusaja. Medju kljucnim su i Xabi Alonso cije se prisustvo osjeti u svakoj utakmici, cak i kad je povrijedjen znaci svojoj ekipi to je pokazao protiv Manchester Uniteda. Ne spomenuti Ozila medju ovim igracima je sramota, igrac koji moze bit neraspolozen, ali i takav jednim dodavanjem rusi protivnika.

Sto se losi karika tice kod ovakvi ekipa tesko je nekog izdvojiti, ali ako moramo to bi kod Borussije bili S. Bender koji nije kalibar Gündogana, a ni defanzivno tesko moze ozbiljnije parirati od njega. Veceras ce poljski reprezentativac Piszczek imati zadatak cuvati Ronalda i bit ce zanimljivo posmatrati da li ce kao obicno kombinovati u napadu sa svojim kolegom iz reprezentacije Kubom, ako tako bude vidjecemo koliko ce odbrana trpiti zbog toga.

Kada je u pitanju Real Madrid tu je lakse izdvojiti igrace koji bi mogli biti kobni za svoju ekipu. Na prvom mjestu je Diego Lopez golman koji je u zadnje vrijeme branio dobro, ali nije golman koji ce u ovakvim utakmicama dobijati priliku ispred Casillasa. Ove sezone su se dosta napadaci pokazali kao losija karika u ekipi, vidjecemo da li je doslo vrijeme da prorade Higuain ili Benzema ili ce utakmicu odlucivati igraci veznog reda i odbrane.

Treneri

Ponovni susret dva na svoj nacin posebna lika u svijetu fudbala. Nakon prvih utakmica vidjeli smo srdacne pozdrave ova dva strucnjaka, ali pred ovu utakmicu Klopp je pravio mali show sa izjava vezani za Real Madrid i Mou-a. Da je se cak i portugalski strucnjak zapitao zasto mu ovo treba jer sigurno nije isprovociran od njihove strane. Sad je pitanje da li cemo ponovo vidjeti tako srdacne pozdrave. Izjave Kloppa i Mourinho:

Jedino gore vrijeme objave Götzeova transfera bilo bi cetiri sata prije utakmice. Razgovarao sam sa svojim igracima, ne treba se nitko bojati da necemo biti potpuno fokusirani. Svi na stadionu moraju podrzati ekipu bez obzira na sve. Real ne smije izvuci korist iz ove situacije.
Real moze igrati na vise nacina. Pokazali su da vole drzati loptu u svom posjedu, primjerice protiv Manchester Uniteda on je iznosio 68 posto. Oni su jedna od najboljih ekipa na svijetu i znaju se prilagoditi raznim formacijama, ali znamo i mi.

Sva cetiri gola koja smo primili od Borussije u grupi dosla su nakon nasih pogresaka. Ako opet primimo, nadam se da ce barem biti lijepi pogoci, a ne izazvani losim reakcijama nase obrane. Naravno, nadamo se da necemo vise dobivati golove od njih.
Ne osjecam pritisak i ne bojim se, ne poznajem takve osjecaje. Ne znam dobro Jürgena Kloppa, ali cini se dosta autentican. Kada kaze da ne zeli gledati kako Real igra, vjerujem da ce napasti i igrati vrlo ofanzivno, te da ce se njegovi igraci boriti za svaku loptu.

Moguci sastavi

Zakljucak

Tesko da cemo prisustvovati slicnoj utakmici kao sto je bila ona sinoc i nadamo se da ce postojati neizvjesnost i nakon prve utakmice. Ostaje nam da uzivamo u carolijama Ronalda, Ozila, Reusa, Gotzea i ostali, a da li ce Real Madrid ostvariti 13. prolaz u finale ili Borussija drugi to cemo morati pricekati posljedni zvizduk na Bernabeu.

Björn Kuipers je sin bivseg sudije koji dobio FIFA-nu znacku 2006. godine i trenutno je najbolji holandski sudija. Do sad je od znacajniji utakmica sudio EURO2012, 2011 European Super Cup, 2010 Club World Cup Abu Dhabi i 2006 U-17 European Championships. Björn Kuipers je vlasnik supermarketa. Ovo je njegova 18. utakmica koju ce suditi u Ligi sampiona, a 65. pod okriljem UEFA-e.Njegovi pomocnici su Sander van Roekel, Erwin Zeinstra, sudije iza gola su Pol van Boekel, Richard Liesveld i cetvrti sudija je Berry Simons svi iz Holandije.

[Sir Giggsy]

Iako su samo moguci sastavi u pitanju, kako Groskrojc moze dobiti prednost u odnosu na Rojsa?!

[Vule_89]

Dobice to Real