Nole, idi u peršun!

[bojanaBG]

Izvan svake sumnje da je poslije onog nesretnog tvita dobro odigrao. I ovo sto je otisao u hotel za one koji traze azil je pametno. Pokazao je da nije razmazen. Spavao je sa bubasvabama, jeo je nikakvu hranu da bi ocistio svoje ime. To nije znak nadmanosti nego karaktera. Samo da nije bilo Srdjana.

Pa nije on otisao samovoljno, nego su ga tamo odveli.
A on je trazio da ga prebace u kucu koju je iznajmio, da bude sa timom, koja ima teniski teren, ali je to odbijeno. To je juce Visko rekao u onom podkastu.

[Panchev9]

Trpicki je rekao da se sve to oko vize elektronski popunjava i dobija se dozvola za ulazak.. Ne nosi teniser sa sobom ništa..

[Ljubitelj tenisa]

Ali moras da nosis, svako ko je putovao u drzave gde treba viza, zna za to jer postoji sansa da ti ponovo traze iste dokumente na osnovu kojih si dobio vizu.
I ne pricam napamet, desavalo mi se

Pa onda moguće. Meni to nije poznato. Doduše ja sam samo jednom putovao u Emirate. Nisam neke specijalne vize uzimao, za studiranje, za ovo za ono. Tj. Vize iz nekog takvog razloga. Viško kaže da to izuzeće nije ništa novo, da Serena sa svojim nekim izuzećima putuje celu karijeru. Naravno to je meni ekstremno sumnjivo ali Amerikancima je mnogo toga dozvoljeno.

Pogranične Snage imaju pravo da te vrate ali postoji i žalba Sudu. Što kaže Kirjos, ovo je baš loše. Na kraju krajeva on se čovek takmiči u sportu. Došao je da igra tenis. Nije neprijatelj.

[bojanaBG]

Pa onda moguće. Meni to nije poznato. Doduše ja sam samo jednom putovao u Emirate. Nisam neke specijalne vize uzimao, za studiranje, za ovo za ono. Tj. Vize iz nekog takvog razloga. Viško kaže da to izuzeće nije ništa novo, da Serena sa svojim nekim izuzećima putuje celu karijeru. Naravno to je meni ekstremno sumnjivo ali Amerikancima je mnogo toga dozvoljeno.

Pogranične Snage imaju pravo da te vrate ali postoji i žalba Sudu. Što kaže Kirjos, ovo je baš loše. Na kraju krajeva on se čovek takmiči u sportu. Došao je da igra tenis. Nije neprijatelj.

To meni nije jasno, kako moze bilo kakvo izuzece tokom cele karijere, pa ne traje korona 20+ godina

[DinoFC]

Vidim dosta tupadzija, laika trabunja po drustvenim mrezama kako Australija nije Balkan da su tamo svi jednaki, kako je htio da zaobidje pravila da udje u zemlju. Stvarno ljudska glupost je gora od korone.


Auu ovog covjeka sam pratio, strasno pamet insan.

[Vladan]

CNN kaze

However you feel about Djokovic he didn't deserve this

Francuska ministarka sporta kaze nema sanse da ga ne pustimo da igra RG i to par dana posle stroge izjave Makrona, politika je duboko usla u sport ali Francuzi su imali potrebu da svijetu pokazu da su oni ipak mnogo bolji od Australijanaca. Meni se cini da je sad jedini spas Australijancima da ga puste da igra AO da ce na taj nacin minimalizovati stetu, u suprotnom ispasce totalitarni rezim u ocima cijelog svijeta. Iako oni mozda to i jesu u poslednje dvije godine, oni su odlucili da ce se na taj nacin boriti protiv korone ipak ovakvu hajku i kritike nikad nisu dobijali. Djokovic s druge strane moze biti zadovoljan, igrao ne igrao izaci ce kao pobjednik iz ove price. Naravno za njega je katastrofa da ne igra AO dje je apsolutni favorit ali i dalje pobjednik u ovoj prici, jer nikad nije imao podrsku zapadnih medija kakvu trenutno ima.

[bojanaBG]

Evo intervju one Cehinje, malo je duzi ali iman ekih zanimljivih stvari

Spoiler

"I did everything they asked me to do," she said on the phone at the Park Hotel on Swanston Street. "Apparently the Australian Tennis Association has misled us, which is annoying. I wanted to focus on tennis, not visas, quarantine. It's really weird that I spent a week here, played a match ... And then they came for me. "

Can you describe how this all happened?
That would be a really long story. But I can say that for two days I'm doing almost nothing other than sending emails to lawyers, the Australian Tennis Association, and the people who are in charge of visas and help me.

Is it true that your visa was canceled on Thursday?
Yes. I'm in quarantine now.

How do you intend to proceed now? Do you want to appeal?
No. Thursday's detention was quite enough for me to be honest. I spent several hours with it until nightfall. I wouldn't want to go through anything like that again. And it's not certain at all that the decision would be reversed. I would have to apply for other visas and wait closed at the hotel for a week without training. Even if I would be successful, I would have the first match after two days, which doesn't make much sense to me.

How was the interrogation going?
I can't say they were mean to me. But I wasn't prepared for the way it all happened. I felt like I was in an action movie and I wasn't comfortable at all.

Why?
Various escorts, insecurity ... And I had even a coach and support from the Australian Tennis Association with me.

When story broke out about Djokovic's arrival and detention, did you suspect that your next stay in Australia in the danger?
No. The commissions that considered the exceptions treated each player separately. I don't know the details of Novak's request, but each case is different.

Has your exemption been based on running a covid in the last six months?
Yes. But I had it before Christmas, at the last minute. Plus I had some medical indications. So I met all the criteria set by the Australian Union.

Did you experience any problems when you went through passport control in Melbourne?
They looked at my documents carefully everywhere, but they didn't make a fuss about it. The Federal Border Service released me immediately. I only stayed with Victoria officials who sent my papers somewhere else. But then they confirmed my entry into the country without any problems.

Your case seems to have come down with a closely watched hunt for Djokovic. What do you think?
I don't know if I can say it openly. But I think so. I don't understand why they would come to me after a week and say, "Look, what was set up is no longer valid."

How was the detention?
They came to the hotel for me.

And what about you? It has to be a big surprise for you.
Yeah. But they really didn't act rude or vulgar. But some quarantined practices are not pleasant. You have to report, everything is allotted. I feel a bit like a prison.

How do you handle unexpected events?
It was an onslaught on my psyche. I felt the worst when they told me they would cancel my visa. Even the lawyer sitting there with me said that I had all the necessary confirmations correct.

So why don't you fight for your rights?
I have some insight. I don't know if my presence would change anything. I hope that Djokovic will succeed in court on Monday. But in my case, everything would take a few more days. I don't want to waste time on the political war that is going on behind the scenes here. I think the federal Government found a loophole in Victoria's protocol because of Djokovic. Now, Djokovic lawyers can find a loophole in federal regulations.

When are you going home?
It's not quite easy. I don't know exactly how the travel process works. It will take some time. You can't decide and go to the airport next hour. I'm waiting for permission. Hopefully Saturday.

Is the Czech Embassy helping you?
All our officials help me. They also recommended me a Czech lawyer, thanks to whom I realized that even after a week of waiting, I would still not have to win in the case.

What are the conditions at the Park Hotel? Some witnesses talked about bedbugs and moldy food.
I don't even know it's the Park Hotel. They brought me here early in the morning. I'm in the room and I'm not allowed to go anywhere. Conditions are common, the category of a better hostel. No tragedy, no hit-parade. They checked my health condition, they brought me food. An escort is guarding me in the hallway.

Are the guards strict?
They are fine. Not that they shout at me when I stick my head out the door. they try to be helpful. But for example, the window is hard closed and I can't open it for five centimeters. And the security guards are everywhere - even under the window, which amused me quite a bit. Like if I'm going to jump and run.

Are you watching Djokovic's fans gather at the hotel?
I don't have windows on the main street where they have meetings, so I can't see them, I just hear them. It was raining today. But once it stops, they go. They sing, they chant. My name has even been heard also. There is a lot of fans. Perhaps they are working on shifts. (laughs) It's nice anyway that Djokovic has such support from them.

Do you want him to succeed in court on Monday and be allowed to enter the Australian Open?
On the one hand, I ended up like this because of Novak. And I don't think I'm alone. More health exemptions have been issued. At the same time, I want them to let him play. We are athletes, we came for tennis and we are not here to resolve local disputes. We read the rules, met the conditions, and received an exception after a lengthy process. So I see no reason why we should after this sit locked in a hostel. That seems pretty sad to me.

Can you tell me why you didn't get vaccinated?
I was busy. I planned it already for weeks after the end of the season and but unfortunately ... I actually caught a covid at the time. And due to it, there was a possible time for vaccinations because I was to fly to Australia next week.

So you are not an opponent of vaccination?
No no. I'm not. I'm not completely against vaccination like Djokovic. As I say, our cases are very different.

[Nesic]

Plitko.

[Ljubitelj tenisa]

Evo intervju one Cehinje, malo je duzi ali iman ekih zanimljivih stvari

Spoiler

"I did everything they asked me to do," she said on the phone at the Park Hotel on Swanston Street. "Apparently the Australian Tennis Association has misled us, which is annoying. I wanted to focus on tennis, not visas, quarantine. It's really weird that I spent a week here, played a match ... And then they came for me. "

Can you describe how this all happened?
That would be a really long story. But I can say that for two days I'm doing almost nothing other than sending emails to lawyers, the Australian Tennis Association, and the people who are in charge of visas and help me.

Is it true that your visa was canceled on Thursday?
Yes. I'm in quarantine now.

How do you intend to proceed now? Do you want to appeal?
No. Thursday's detention was quite enough for me to be honest. I spent several hours with it until nightfall. I wouldn't want to go through anything like that again. And it's not certain at all that the decision would be reversed. I would have to apply for other visas and wait closed at the hotel for a week without training. Even if I would be successful, I would have the first match after two days, which doesn't make much sense to me.

How was the interrogation going?
I can't say they were mean to me. But I wasn't prepared for the way it all happened. I felt like I was in an action movie and I wasn't comfortable at all.

Why?
Various escorts, insecurity ... And I had even a coach and support from the Australian Tennis Association with me.

When story broke out about Djokovic's arrival and detention, did you suspect that your next stay in Australia in the danger?
No. The commissions that considered the exceptions treated each player separately. I don't know the details of Novak's request, but each case is different.

Has your exemption been based on running a covid in the last six months?
Yes. But I had it before Christmas, at the last minute. Plus I had some medical indications. So I met all the criteria set by the Australian Union.

Did you experience any problems when you went through passport control in Melbourne?
They looked at my documents carefully everywhere, but they didn't make a fuss about it. The Federal Border Service released me immediately. I only stayed with Victoria officials who sent my papers somewhere else. But then they confirmed my entry into the country without any problems.

Your case seems to have come down with a closely watched hunt for Djokovic. What do you think?
I don't know if I can say it openly. But I think so. I don't understand why they would come to me after a week and say, "Look, what was set up is no longer valid."

How was the detention?
They came to the hotel for me.

And what about you? It has to be a big surprise for you.
Yeah. But they really didn't act rude or vulgar. But some quarantined practices are not pleasant. You have to report, everything is allotted. I feel a bit like a prison.

How do you handle unexpected events?
It was an onslaught on my psyche. I felt the worst when they told me they would cancel my visa. Even the lawyer sitting there with me said that I had all the necessary confirmations correct.

So why don't you fight for your rights?
I have some insight. I don't know if my presence would change anything. I hope that Djokovic will succeed in court on Monday. But in my case, everything would take a few more days. I don't want to waste time on the political war that is going on behind the scenes here. I think the federal Government found a loophole in Victoria's protocol because of Djokovic. Now, Djokovic lawyers can find a loophole in federal regulations.

When are you going home?
It's not quite easy. I don't know exactly how the travel process works. It will take some time. You can't decide and go to the airport next hour. I'm waiting for permission. Hopefully Saturday.

Is the Czech Embassy helping you?
All our officials help me. They also recommended me a Czech lawyer, thanks to whom I realized that even after a week of waiting, I would still not have to win in the case.

What are the conditions at the Park Hotel? Some witnesses talked about bedbugs and moldy food.
I don't even know it's the Park Hotel. They brought me here early in the morning. I'm in the room and I'm not allowed to go anywhere. Conditions are common, the category of a better hostel. No tragedy, no hit-parade. They checked my health condition, they brought me food. An escort is guarding me in the hallway.

Are the guards strict?
They are fine. Not that they shout at me when I stick my head out the door. they try to be helpful. But for example, the window is hard closed and I can't open it for five centimeters. And the security guards are everywhere - even under the window, which amused me quite a bit. Like if I'm going to jump and run.

Are you watching Djokovic's fans gather at the hotel?
I don't have windows on the main street where they have meetings, so I can't see them, I just hear them. It was raining today. But once it stops, they go. They sing, they chant. My name has even been heard also. There is a lot of fans. Perhaps they are working on shifts. (laughs) It's nice anyway that Djokovic has such support from them.

Do you want him to succeed in court on Monday and be allowed to enter the Australian Open?
On the one hand, I ended up like this because of Novak. And I don't think I'm alone. More health exemptions have been issued. At the same time, I want them to let him play. We are athletes, we came for tennis and we are not here to resolve local disputes. We read the rules, met the conditions, and received an exception after a lengthy process. So I see no reason why we should after this sit locked in a hostel. That seems pretty sad to me.

Can you tell me why you didn't get vaccinated?
I was busy. I planned it already for weeks after the end of the season and but unfortunately ... I actually caught a covid at the time. And due to it, there was a possible time for vaccinations because I was to fly to Australia next week.

So you are not an opponent of vaccination?
No no. I'm not. I'm not completely against vaccination like Djokovic. As I say, our cases are very different.

Presmesan mi onaj deo kad su došli po nju i rekli u fazonu, "ono što smo ti rekli, više ne važi". Ako ovaj intervju dođe u obzir kao informacija za Sud, lagana egzekucija.

Sve je dakle bilo regularno dok Novak nije zajebao stvar na instagramu. Ipak se sad vraćam na taj stav. Mislim da je nehotice izleteo sa izjavom a ne namerno.

[bojanaBG]

Meni je zanimljiv onaj deo gde kaze da i dobije na sudu, morala bi ponovo da aplicira za vizu i to bi se oduzilo, da bi dotle bila zatovrena u hotelu.
Da li to znaci da i Djokovica to ceka?

[Ljubitelj tenisa]

Meni je zanimljiv onaj deo gde kaze da i dobije na sudu, morala bi ponovo da aplicira za vizu i to bi se oduzilo, da bi dotle bila zatovrena u hotelu.
Da li to znaci da i Djokovica to ceka?

Nisam siguran da je u pravu. Kako možeš dobiti na Sudu a da moraš da apliciraš za novu vizu? Kako Sud da presudi u njenu/Novakovu korist a da ipak potvrdi da viza nije bila u redu. Meni laički deluje da Sud može da kaže, protokol je bio prema ATAGI smernicama, ljudi su priložili, komisija je gledala, dve komisije su gledale, i to nezavisne. Odboreno je izuzeće. Prevedeno na normalan rečnik ulazak u zemlju je regularan i viza je u redu. Teniser/Teniserka nastavlja boravak.

[bojanaBG]

Nisam siguran da je u pravu. Kako možeš dobiti na Sudu a da moraš da apliciraš za novu vizu? Kako Sud da presudi u njenu/Novakovu korist a da ipak potvrdi da viza nije bila u redu. Meni laički deluje da Sud može da kaže, protokol je bio prema ATAGI smernicama, ljudi su priložili, komisija je gledala, dve komisije su gledale, i to nezavisne. Odboreno je izuzeće. Prevedeno na normalan rečnik ulazak u zemlju je regularan i viza je u redu. Teniser/Teniserka nastavlja boravak.

Da, to i ja mislim, ali mi nije jasan njen odgovor i da je to bio razlog zasto i ona nije ulozila zalbu.

[DinoFC]

Bas maksuz udjem na tviter profil najveceg smrada na svijetu Piersa Morgana da vidim jel nesto jos komentarisao na ovu temu. Zadnja objava mu je napad na Novaka nakon objave da je dobio izuzece, kakav smrad. Da ga vidim ne bih se suzdrzao da mu jebem sve

[skeptik]

Ovo sto se dogadja sa Novakom je vise od sporta, to je politicka odluka gde je ulog veliki tako da cisto sumnjam da Novak moze dobiti nesto na sudu sem izvinjena jer svaka druga odluka bi znacila kraj vlade i gubitak izbora.
Pratio sam na tviteru stanje u Australiji i vidim da je stanje za obicne ljude veoma lose, restrikcije plus poluprazni supermarketi i kada bi posle svega ovog presli kao da nista nije bilo i da postoji izuzeci narod bi ponovo izasao na ulice. Tenis je u drugom planu ovde.

[DinoFC]

Ovo sto se dogadja sa Novakom je vise od sporta, to je politicka odluka gde je ulog veliki tako da cisto sumnjam da Novak moze dobiti nesto na sudu sem izvinjena jer svaka druga odluka bi znacila kraj vlade i gubitak izbora.
Pratio sam na tviteru stanje u Australiji i vidim da je stanje za obicne ljude veoma lose, restrikcije plus poluprazni supermarketi i kada bi posle svega ovog presli kao da nista nije bilo i da postoji izuzeci narod bi ponovo izasao na ulice. Tenis je u drugom planu ovde.

Moguce da bi neki protesti izbili i pobuna kad bi mu bilo dozvoljeno da igra. Same implikacije te odluke niko ne moze predvidjeti i samim tim niko takvu odluku nece donijeti ma koliko postojalo utemeljene za suporotnu odluku.
Sama priroda ove sudske odluke ostavlja toliko prostora za slobodnu sudsku procjenu da su apsolutno irelevatne cinjenice koje Novaku idu u korist.

Kad mi iskoci Nadalova izjava negdje, kosa mi se na glavi dize. Kakav je to podmukli supak